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CF Election Game: The Vote

Which party is your first choice to lead the new government of the Republic of CF?

  • Social Equality and Justice (Mzungu)

  • Federalist (Panzerkampfwagen)

  • Common Sense Party (Jayem)

  • Liberty (Callmemurph)

  • The Peoples' Christian Party (Dawiyd)

  • The Democratic Socialist Party (WiredSpirit)

  • Hawk Party (Chris81)


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Here it is, the moment you've all been waiting for, the voting for the CF elections is now open.

Feel free to discuss your choices in-thread.

The polls will stay open until Midnight, GMT, on Wednesday the 2nd of February. Get your vote in early!

Information on the parties is summarised below, for a more in-depth view of their policies and stance on key issues, take a look at the Debate Thread: http://www.christianforums.com/t7530270/



 
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And the final two parties:



 
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Ahhhh! Where's the undo?!?! I meant to vote Liberty, but instead clicked People's Christian

There isn't one, as much as I'd love there to be! I've clicked the wrong option on a poll many's the time!
 
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Dang. I'm not entirely happy with my choice, having noticed WAY too late that "Social Equality and Justice" wants to keep male gay couples from adopting for no particular reason (while having no trouble with lesbian couples doing the same).

Meh.
 
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Dang. I'm not entirely happy with my choice, having noticed WAY too late that "Social Equality and Justice" wants to keep male gay couples from adopting for no particular reason (while having no trouble with lesbian couples doing the same).

Meh.

Hahah that's why I voted for the social equality and justice party. Equality for all (except gays) .
My thoughts exactly Plus they seemed a little too gung-ho with border control, foreign policy, etc, and their freedom of religion seems to be "Freedom of Religion to all religions... except those religions we don't like".

I'm also surprised the 'Liberty' party would be in favour of privatisation of transport, energy, water, healthcare, etc. It seems to be liberal for individuals, but quite conservative for large conglomerates (businesses, etc).

But the Democratic Socialist Party, now that's a banging party
 
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The Social Equality and Justice party will like to clarify on some of its policies:

We are not anti Gay but we believe that children growing up with a mother present is better for the child. This does not mean that male gay couples are not fit to be parents. However in keeping to our equality policies we are willing to put the issue up for a referendum; And should the majority be in favour then we will bring it up for a vote in the house.

Also we will request the International organisation of Psychology to give its input on the matter.

Scientific evidences will play a major role in many of our decision making.

We cannot possibly please everyone, but we aim to offer a more just society.

As for the Border issue:

Economic refugees will not be issued a green card unless they make they follow the proper procedures of applying for a permit; However we shall aim to help the countries afflicted with poverty to achieve economic growth and thus more jobs.

Refugees coming from war torn countries and or ones seeking asylum due to fear for their lives from state persecution will be given special consideration.

We cannot afford to inundate our country with people seeking a better future before we can offer to our citizens the basic services that are within our policies.

We ask you to remember that all laws are not static and are meant to reflect the needs and wishes of a society.

As for freedom of religion:

We do not consider Scientology to be a religion for they do not adhere to the specifics of what constitutes a religion. The church of Scientology has been accused of crimes and has been shown to function more like a closed knit crime syndicate than a religious establishment.

All religions are offered complete freedom unless they violate basic human rights eg: Female genital circumcision, death penalty, abuse of women, etc.

Any religion that does not permit its followers to leave and are threatened with harsh punishment, will not be allowed to function.

We adhere to the commonly accepted human rights as specified by the UN.

We are also willing to listen and discuss issues pertaining to the needs of everyone including minorities.

LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!
 
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I'm also surprised the 'Liberty' party would be in favour of privatisation of transport, energy, water, healthcare, etc. It seems to be liberal for individuals, but quite conservative for large conglomerates (businesses, etc).

Thats what being a libertarian is. Liberty for everyone.
 
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I need to found my own party, even if it will not show up in the poll:


Name of Party: GAIA (Green Anarchists International Association)


Approximate Political Category: Green anarchism/ Deep Ecology/ Social Ecology

National Security (Internal and External): On a larger scale, the use of force only serves to treat the symptoms of social wrongs, but not their causes. As such, it is a necessary evil in protecting citizens from harm, but contributes little to an actual solution.
The best way to keep desperate refugees from poor countries from trying to cross into our own (as in the case of Africans trying to enter the EU and Mexicans doing the same in the US) is to end the neo-colonialist exploitation of their countries of origin. Far too many countries have been reduced to mere thralls to the World Bank or some multinational corporations, and are independent in name only.
"Pre-emptive strikes", meaning military invasions of foreign territories without due cause, are illegal. We must deal with the aftereffects of the neo-con policies and try our best to help the Iraqi and Afghan population recuperate from the war - but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't withdraw our troops at the earliest opportunity.
The Guantanamo camp will be closed. It was a very obvious attempt at violating the very principles of law that have made the US a free country and a paragon of Western democracy to begin with.

Education and Health Care:
Education and Scientific Research must be our top priority. The best way to ascertain social justice is to make sure that a top-rate education is no longer an exclusive privilege or rich kids and a few working class geniuses that are funded so that the rich can feel better about keeping the poor people out for the most part.
Research needs more government funding in order to be truly independent. Privately funded projects will always tend to exhibit some unavoidable bias towards producing exactly the results the investor desires. Furthermore, we need to invest in research into renewable energy sources, for obvious reasons.

Universal health care is mandatory. It's insufferable that a wealthy nation does not take care of its citizens, and leaves people to suffer and die because they cannot pay for treatment on their own. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link, and thus, it is our moral duty to contribute to the well-being of our neighbours.
Furthermore, economic interests and public health do not go well together. The first focuses on profit maximization, the second on the welfare of patients - and those two are very often at odds with each other.

Social Issues: Social legislation should be kept to an absolute minimum, and social values are the domain of individuals and/or communities. If religion X feels that their members ought not to eat oysters, they are free not to buy and eat them, but that doesn't mean that all oysters are henceforth prohibited and mustn't be sold. The same applies to sexual taboos and so forth. The law is only concerned with protecting people from harm - and in most cases, social or religious taboos do not fall into that category.

Transport and Utilities: No natural monopoly should ever be in private hands, lest the owner exploits his position to milk those who depend upon it.
Public transportation ought to be owned by communities, as again, profit maximization and public interests tend to be at odds with each other. Furthermore, public transportations needs to become more attractive, losing its social stigma.

The Economy, Businesses, and Jobs: As it is, international politics are dominated by undemocratic institutions like the WTO, the IMF and the World Bank, while international banks and corporations concentrate more power in their hands than most states.
In light of our technological possibilities, globalization is unavoidable, but we need to keep the market under democratic control, ascertaining that the monetary elite does not abuse its power to exploit those who are less powerful. Any full-time job should result in a wage that makes life sustainable, and "sweat shops" need to be combated. It is important to guide the market in a direction where long-term sustainability becomes a factor again, instead of proliferating a system that focuses on short-term profits and the least possible ethical standard. Right now, the most ruthless and unethical corporations are those with the largest profit margin, and those who act in the most responsible fashion are the ones that suffer.

Other: Environmental concerns are (naturally) important to GAIA, but we do not believe that coercion by force could ever render the desired results. Instead, we must seek to educate people, to make investing into eco-tech more attractive to companies, and to stop major corporations from acting against the interests of local communities.

 
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Would not penalise companies who pollute

I just want to note that Liberty does wish to see pollution to be penalized. People are free to boycott these companies if they wish. Also if they can trace property damage back to a company or individual they are free to bring them to court.
 
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Is there any evidence that children raised without a major female figure, are any worse off?

Still, given the current state of US immigration control and the disturbing powers granted to the TSA, it's my opinion (and just my opinion) that border control needs to be relaxed, not strengthened. When a state's xenophobia incites abuse of its own citizens, that's when you need to stop.

The Church of Scientology is a business, not a church, that's for sure. But if someone wants to practise the religion of Scientology, unaffiliated from the mainstream Church, should they be free to do so?

All religions are offered complete freedom unless they violate basic human rights eg: Female genital circumcision, death penalty, abuse of women, etc.
What about male genital circumcision, or the abuse of men?

Any religion that does not permit its followers to leave and are threatened with harsh punishment, will not be allowed to function.

We adhere to the commonly accepted human rights as specified by the UN.
 
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Thats what being a libertarian is. Liberty for everyone.
Which would, I think, translate to public, not private, institutions. The NHS, for instance, is (in theory) open to everyone - while a privatised healthcare system, such as the US has (or had), would prohibit medicine to those who can afford it. It wouldn't be liberating healthcare for everyone.
 
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