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No one has really taken on the challenge, for some reason. Just prove reality, without referring to reality.
Perhaps the proof of God, then, is finally: that you all accept "reality" so wholeheartedly - would that be fair?
Whether your memory is real or not is irrelevant to the topic. The fact that you can experience memories means that you must exist, at the very least. This proves reality, even though reality means little more than you, in this case.Your memory is only your ... yes, memory. It is not even anything you can find by any means. To everyone else, it does not exist at all. If you call that as existence, then God certainly exists.
And, you only live at the very moment, not a minute earlier and not a minute later. That is your "existence".
For me, I call it mirage.
Non sequitur. So far, we all have proven reality pretty easily. We didn't take the existence of reality on faith.Perhaps the proof of God, then, is finally: that you all accept "reality" so wholeheartedly - would that be fair?
Perhaps the proof of God, then, is finally: that you all accept "reality" so wholeheartedly - would that be fair?
No one has really taken on the challenge, for some reason. Just prove reality, without referring to reality.
Reality is something that exists to itself.
It can be done, just not with legalistic attributions of reality, from one part of reality to another.
I'm not even setting out to make things unduly hard, think about the fact that until now, you have always thought reality was real "because its real" (as people have abundantly tried to point out)... now, keep believing, but don't say that. Simple!
I have no evidence to support God's "certain" existence. I do have evidence of my own memory, and other people show external evidence of remembering their past.
For me, I call that existence (without any scare quotes). That is all existence has to be in order to be fully existence. I fail to see how reality is lacking if past, present, and future don't exist simultaneously (if that even makes sense).
eudaimonia,
Mark
Hmmm! I think, therefore God exists?
We have proven that reality exists, we did not infer that it's limited to our mind.If you are satisfied with that kind of existence, then I guess it would be OK.
And if so, I guess becomes high by drug, or indulge yourself on anything would be perfectly fine, or even desirable. When you started to feel the consequence, then simply kill yourself. That would be perfectly fine too.
If you are satisfied with that kind of existence, then I guess it would be OK.
And if so, I guess becomes high by drug, or indulge yourself on anything would be perfectly fine, or even desirable. When you started to feel the consequence, then simply kill yourself. That would be perfectly fine too.
I think about God, therefore God exists
"Time is nature's way of preventing everything from happening all at once."
Yes, I'm perfectly happy existing only in the present moment. I don't see how this is lacking in any way.
By "yourself", are you referring hypothetically to myself? I have never been "high" in my life, am not an indulgent person (preferring to live in moderation), and have never been suicidal (even as a teenager).
I value my life and I take care of myself. None of what you mention would be fine with me, nor does believing that existence in the present moment is satisfactory imply any sort of justification for hedonistic or self-destructive tendencies. I can only imagine that you are talking hypothetically about yourself.
No, it would be: "I think about God, therefore the idea of God exists."
eudaimonia,
Mark
How about
I think about God, therefore God exists
You only exist at this very moment. You which existed one moment earlier is no longer, and you do not exist yet at one moment later. All you have is NOW.
So, why don't you indulge yourself and make yourself happy at this moment? Yesterday is already gone and tomorrow is too far away.
That is why when one looks back to his life, nothing really existed, nothing is real.
Yes, it is all about the time. It is the biggest mystery in philosophy as well as in science. For you, eternity is something you can't even think about.
If you do not like my test: perhaps you can suggest one?
Yes, and NOW is amazing!
Tomorrow! Tomorrow! I love you, tomorrow! You're always a day away!
In my experience, "tomorrow" arrives very quickly. It was only as a child that it seemed far away, but that was an illusion. It always arrived in no more than a day. So, it isn't "too far away" at all. You are going to have to live tomorrow with the consequences of today. Consequences can follow you all the rest of your "todays". There is no escape from causality.
That said, I don't see any reason why I shouldn't be happy at this moment. What is wrong with being happy?
But the method you prescribe, "indulging" oneself, which I take to mean a fetish for physical pleasure, is foolish in the long run. It is like arguing that one should gorge oneself on cake without any care for having a tummy ache in the next few hours, or the pounds one may add for the rest of one's lifetime, or the heart attack that will end one's life sooner than necessary.
Also, why focus on physical or unintellectual pleasures? Even Epicurus, who was technically a philosophical hedonist, advocated intellectual pleasures over physical pleasures. Reading an interesting book is preferable to eating that sugar-filled cake, and physical pleasures are only good to the extent that they relieve pain (such as of hunger) and bring one to mental tranquility.
But I am not a philosophical hedonist at all. While I'm not anti-physical pleasure and can agree with Epicurus on some of his advice, I prefer to focus my effort on self-actualization. Developing one's talents and putting them to good use is one of the most satisfying things in life, and one of the noblest. It is a far cry from simple-minded "indulgence".
Of course it really existed. It just doesn't exist now. That's no loss. For the rest of eternity, you still will have lived your life. Nothing can change that.
"Eternity" is no concern of mine. We are finite beings, and that is enough.
eudaimonia,
Mark
I was like you.
But thanks to God that He gives me a break through.
No one has really taken on the challenge, for some reason. Just prove reality, without referring to reality.
Reality is something that exists to itself.
It can be done, just not with legalistic attributions of reality, from one part of reality to another.
I'm not even setting out to make things unduly hard, think about the fact that until now, you have always thought reality was real "because its real" (as people have abundantly tried to point out)... now, keep believing, but don't say that. Simple!
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