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Section10 said:At least with an "absolute" standard we can all see how far we've deviated from it.
Section10 said:Just another opinion. We've all got one.
Section10 said:I do, but are you saying your understanding of it is the right one? Or are you just saying "this is how I see it"? If you're saying "this is how I see it" I can respect that. But I have no imperative to share your opinion.
Section10 said:I see them how they're written. Slavery was a very different thing back then as opposed to what we think of it now.
First Peter, why not? Why make grief for yourself? Christianity wasn't out to change the culture back then. It was hard enough just to be able to survive within it.
The bible is the word of God that is told from a human perspective.
When you take little snippets or sections of any story or writing and use that on its own and isolated from the rest of the text it is going to be wrongly interpreted or give the wrong impression no matter where its from. Especially if you want to use that snippet to push a certain agenda.
Section10 said:1st question.
Whether they are or not is beside the point since everyone has their own ideas about them.
Without looking them up, I think the Bible prefers folks avoid slavery if they can. But back then slavery was the welfare system. Governments existed only to exploit their people. There were no safety nets, no food stamps. If things got really bad and you had no family to care for you, you died in a ditch. Slavery was a way to avoid that. Just like people should avoid welfare today if they can, but if it gets too bad for you, welfare will at least keep you alive. Most admonitions regarding slavery are toward slave owners who had responsibilities to care for their people. Sure they were property, an investment,
but it beat starving to death and I don't think anywhere else in the world did slave owners recognize nearly as much concern toward their slaves as Israel did. After a period of time slaves were offered their freedom and very often they refused, because they had nothing else going for them in the outside world. Criticize the prevailing culture for that, but it's not necessarily slavery's fault.
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Without looking them up, I think the Bible prefers folks avoid slavery if they can. But back then slavery was the welfare system. Governments existed only to exploit their people. There were no safety nets, no food stamps. If things got really bad and you had no family to care for you, you died in a ditch. Slavery was a way to avoid that. Just like people should avoid welfare today if they can, but if it gets too bad for you, welfare will at least keep you alive.
Most admonitions regarding slavery are toward slave owners who had responsibilities to care for their people. Sure they were property, an investment, but it beat starving to death and I don't think anywhere else in the world did slave owners recognize nearly as much concern toward their slaves as Israel did.
After a period of time slaves were offered their freedom and very often they refused, because they had nothing else going for them in the outside world. Criticize the prevailing culture for that, but it's not necessarily slavery's fault.
Without looking them up, I think the Bible prefers folks avoid slavery if they can. But back then slavery was the welfare system. Governments existed only to exploit their people. There were no safety nets, no food stamps. If things got really bad and you had no family to care for you, you died in a ditch. Slavery was a way to avoid that. Just like people should avoid welfare today if they can, but if it gets too bad for you, welfare will at least keep you alive. Most admonitions regarding slavery are toward slave owners who had responsibilities to care for their people. Sure they were property, an investment,
but it beat starving to death and I don't think anywhere else in the world did slave owners recognize nearly as much concern toward their slaves as Israel did. After a period of time slaves were offered their freedom and very often they refused, because they had nothing else going for them in the outside world. Criticize the prevailing culture for that, but it's not necessarily slavery's fault.
Steve, are you really 86 years old and posting with such intellectual veracity? I'm impressed if so!
Blue lightning asked me how I saw it and I told him. That's all. What the rest of you people think I couldn't care less. The day atheists do my bible reading for me is the day I might as well burn it. The bible also says: Do not answer a fool according to his folly or you will be like him yourself. Do you really think I expect or intend to change your minds on any of this? Dream on.
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