Can a Christian be a communist?

royboy · Nov 11, 2003

Ampmonster said:
"China seems to get along just fine being communist "

...im sorry? they harvest organs out of living people over there.
oh and the 15/1 M/F ratio is gonna start getting in the way of "getting along fine" real soon.

Aren't americans involved in harvesting stem cells from faetuses (I don't actually know, aren't they?)? How organ harvest even related to communism? Also, from what I hear, China is communist in name. Their economy is capitalistic.

Also, I hear they don't the same ammount of problems with gangs, drive bys, crime in general.

I find it funny how anyone can point their fingers at other countries without acknowledging their own problems first. Ofcourse, this is only relevant if you think any nation is free from wrong doing.

Keeping this in mind, why would raise something like organ harvesting? Also, is this harvesting being done with government approval?

Seriously, everybodies poo stinks.

Go back 50yrs in American history and you have oppression of black people. Go back even further and you have the indians.

America may have developed to a point where they can better hide the necessary dirty work by financing gorrilas, lies and half truths using the media. But they weren't always able to.

So untill their resources are equal and they can use money to hide dirty work equally, don't compare them.

Ampmonster · Nov 11, 2003

I find it funny how anyone can point their fingers at other countries without acknowledging their own problems first

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT COMMUNISM stay on topic please. oh wait you'd hardly have an argument then. "what about?" "what about?" "what about?" ou sound like a broken record!

royboy · Nov 11, 2003

Ampmonster said:
I find it funny how anyone can point their fingers at other countries without acknowledging their own problems first

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT COMMUNISM stay on topic please. oh wait you'd hardly have an argument then. "what about?" "what about?" "what about?" ou sound like a broken record!

I am on topic. You gave live organ harvesting as a reason communism doesn't work for the chinese.

How is live organ harvesting related to communism that is practiced by the chinese today?

Also, is this harvesting being done with government approval?

I also said that China is communist in name. Their economy is capitalistic. Why haven't you commented on that?

Is what you wrote meant to be criticising their government, way of life in anyway?

...im sorry? they harvest organs out of living people over there.
oh and the 15/1 M/F ratio is gonna start getting in the way of "getting along fine" real soon.

Ampmonster · Nov 11, 2003

read my reply to the original guy.
re: "capitalist china" ok maybe the .0001% of the people ALLOWED to be capitalist.

royboy · Nov 11, 2003

Ampmonster said:
read my reply to the original guy.
re: "capitalist china" ok maybe the .0001% of the people ALLOWED to be capitalist.

Where do you get your facts from? By capitalist, do you mean they keep what they earn? If so, how do you know it is not so?

Ampmonster · Nov 11, 2003

those who are free to pursue their own business .001% is an estimate but there are 1 billion over there.
*wonders how "big" China's economy is, per capita...*

by the way, for fairness sakes, where you from? you forgot your flag (probably an oversight)

royboy · Nov 11, 2003

Ampmonster said:
those who are free to pursue their own business .001% is an estimate but there are 1 billion over there.
*wonders how "big" China's economy is, per capita...*

by the way, for fairness sakes, where you from? you forgot your flag (probably an oversight)

those who are free to pursue their own business .001% is an estimate but there are 1 billion over there.

Where did you get this figure? Remember, china is still developing. They only just recently joined the WTO. Are you presenting this view having already considered this information?

No, I did not forget to place my flag.

Ampmonster · Nov 11, 2003

"Where did you get this figure?"
"is an estimate "

you can read, right?
but your not gonna tell me where your from...intresting yet predictable. liberal commies are sooo boring lately.

royboy · Nov 11, 2003

Ampmonster said:
"Where did you get this figure?"
"is an estimate "

you can read, right?
but your not gonna tell me where your from...intresting yet predictable. liberal commies are sooo boring lately.

"is an estimate "

Which survey, article, etc. did you get this figure from.

but your not gonna tell me where your from...intresting yet predictable. liberal commies are sooo boring lately.

So now your labelling me a communist? What led you to believe this?

I'll ask again, "Where did you get this figure (from)? Remember, china is still developing. They only just recently joined the WTO. Are you presenting this view having already considered this information?"

Ampmonster · Nov 11, 2003

"What led you to believe this?"
your staunch defense of their hopeless ideals

royboy · Nov 11, 2003

Ampmonster said:
"What led you to believe this?"
your staunch defense of their hopeless ideals

I'm not communist.

Describe to me what you know about the state of communism in China today.

...im sorry? they harvest organs out of living people over there.
oh and the 15/1 M/F ratio is gonna start getting in the way of "getting along fine" real soon.

Is this a state endorsed practice?

If live organ harvesting is not state endorsed, then by your standards, one could say that democracy doesn't work because America has its columbines, and it's drive by shootings, etc.

those who are free to pursue their own business .001% is an estimate but there are 1 billion over there.

Again, Which survey, article, etc. did you get this figure from?

Remember, china is still developing. They only just recently joined the WTO.

Are you presenting this view having already been aware of this information?

Ampmonster · Nov 11, 2003

i heard about it. it's really only going to affect the big fatcats though. i don't have any links or specifics, but that's how things get run over there. you think china getting more world business is going to trickle down?

royboy · Nov 11, 2003

Ampmonster said:
i heard about it. it's really only going to affect the big fatcats though. i don't have any links or specifics, but that's how things get run over there. you think china getting more world business is going to trickle down?

I was in Shanghai earlier this year. I stayed with my fathers associates. Some owned factories, some small businesses, some were engineers, some were teachers, real estate agents.

They keep what they earn. Yes there is a gap between the rich and the poor, is this exclusive to China?

Remember, they are still developing. Their economy is improving. Street vendors seem a lot more happy than the vendors in my country, which is democratic.

...im sorry? they harvest organs out of living people over there.
oh and the 15/1 M/F ratio is gonna start getting in the way of "getting along fine" real soon.

Is this a government endorsed practice?

If live organ harvesting is not government endorsed, then by your standards, one could say that democracy doesn't work because America has its columbines, and it's drive by shootings, etc.

Ampmonster · Nov 11, 2003

"Remember, they are still developing. Their economy is improving. Street vendors seem a lot more happy than the vendors in my country, which is democratic."

...and obviously something your not very proud of either.

BigToe · Nov 11, 2003

are you proud of living in a democratic country that polices the world for things it can't control within its own borders?

the thing is, no matter which nation we are from, there are good and bad things we can focus on. how about instead of trying to rid the world of their problems we all work on fixing our same problems?

royboy · Nov 11, 2003

Ampmonster said:
"Remember, they are still developing. Their economy is improving. Street vendors seem a lot more happy than the vendors in my country, which is democratic."

...and obviously something your not very proud of either.

I'm trying to tell you that China is communist in name only. They are not yet a developed country like the US. They are shifting towards capitalism.

How does this show that I'm not proud of my current country. I'm not against America or my own democratic country. My main point is that everybodys poo stinks. No country has been absolutely moral. Your land and my land was taken away from its original inhabitants, and our countries have done their share of oppressing.

1. You wrote, ...im sorry? they harvest organs out of living people over there.
oh and the 15/1 M/F ratio is gonna start getting in the way of "getting along fine" real soon.

Is this a government endorsed practice?
If live organ harvesting is not government endorsed, then by your standards, one could say that democracy doesn't work because America has its columbines, and it's drive by shootings, etc.

2. Did you know about the current state of communism in China before you made your comments on communism in China.

3. Why don't you fully address my posts.

Ampmonster · Nov 11, 2003

"3. Why don't you fully address my posts."
because i like to imagine the furrowed look on your brow as you type furiously. it makes me smile.

and you havent told me where your from yet. i'm not going to bash it or anything. i just want to know for fairness sake.
*still smiling*
you should try it sometime.

BigToe · Nov 11, 2003

smiling hurts... and gives you wrinkles hehe

MikeMcK · Nov 11, 2003

Given that one of the tenets of Marxism is atheism, I would think it would be kind of difficult to be a "Christian communist".

BigToe · Nov 11, 2003

marxism is only one form of communism, a corrupt version that doesn't accomplish what communism would in its ideal form

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