Big Mistakes : Little Mistakes

Eudaimonist · May 19, 2008

mrghost said:
That was not very nice.... This is America... I get to Share what ever I want, when ever I want to. Excuse Me.
I served in the Army and paid for my freedom and yours.

When the Founding Fathers advocated freedom of speech, they didn't mean that people should feel perfectly free to be disrespectful towards others. They meant that people shouldn't be silenced by the government for expressing unpopular views.

No one here is suggesting that the government step in and police your speech. They are asking you to police your own speech. The Founding Fathers would be proud.

eudaimonia,

Mark

cantata · May 19, 2008

Ooh ooh, what's going to happen to me next week, Mrghost?

*hopes for a tall, dark stranger*

quatona · May 19, 2008

mrghost said:
Why do you always twist stuff.

Where did I twist stuff here, and how do you get to "always"?

You are making another Assumption

And this assumption would be which one?

mrghost · May 19, 2008

For instance, Some one said I was a physic Mind reader, I did not say that, some one else Assumed that and posted it in that flavour,
Its seem that most here just want to down one another, and find fault, or spark a argument. why is most everyone in this thread always on the defence.
Why are they so rude to one another. That isn't any fun. Now being a silver tongue Devil that may be fun. but to kick everybody down all the time denotes a inner problem. Does not even take a physic to figure that out, just anyone who can add 2 plus 2.... Gripe, wine, Complain, cry, scream, rant and rave.finger pointing, derogatory comments. Does anyone here have a cool head on there shoulder. or all they full of contempt. ? Mrghost......very cool

quatona · May 19, 2008

mrghost said:
For instance, Some one said I was a physic Mind reader, I did not say that, some one else Assumed that and posted it in that flavour,
Its seem that most here just want to down one another, and find fault, or spark a argument. why is most everyone in this thread always on the defence.
Why are they so rude to one another. That isn't any fun. Now being a silver tongue Devil that may be fun. but to kick everybody down all the time denotes a inner problem. Does not even take a physic to figure that out, just anyone who can add 2 plus 2.... Gripe, wine, Complain, cry, scream, rant and rave.finger pointing, derogatory comments. Does anyone here have a cool head on there shoulder. or all they full of contempt. ? Mrghost......very cool

You talked to me about me "always" making assumptions.
I was asking you:
1. Where did I make an assumption in the post you responded to, and which one?
2. Where else did I make assumptions that justified the use of "always"?

The above doesn´t answer these questions, unless you intend to hold against me what others have said.

I am completely cool. Leave the personal stuff out of the discussion, and you´ll appear as completely cool, as well.

mrghost · May 19, 2008

THERE IS A PROBLEM,... WHEN PEOPLE QUOTE WHAT OTHERS HAVE POSTED ON A ASSUMPTION BASIS.

You can watch the message get messed up twisted, bent out of context and form.
Every one need to stop quoting each other, they can read it for them selves,

Quoting a assumption misses the mark of truth everytime, Seems like the more things are quoted the greater percentage there is for errors to generate.

Can't you put your 3 cents in, with out the need for quoting others all the time, you must assume everyone hear is stupid and can not figure it for themselves. Do you feel you are doing them a service, they need your quotes cause they don't have the brains to see it for them selves.
This reminds me of the commerical about Bobby and his Oreo cookies, at the school lunchroom, How the story gets changed evertime it is passed from one person to the next. at the end the young boy has the message all messed up and wrong.
Try just posting your Ideas, not Quoting Another members Ideas, Get some spark in you life, Quite being a copy cat......Mrghost.....
Assumption is the Mother of Evil....

cantata · May 19, 2008

Quoting is pretty much the easiest way to show whose post you're talking about. That's how message boards work.

UncleHermit · May 19, 2008

mrghost said:
THERE IS A PROBLEM,... WHEN PEOPLE QUOTE WHAT OTHERS HAVE POSTED ON A ASSUMPTION BASIS.

You can watch the message get messed up twisted, bent out of context and form.
Every one need to stop quoting each other, they can read it for them selves,

Quoting a assumption misses the mark of truth everytime, Seems like the more things are quoted the greater percentage there is for errors to generate.

Can't you put your 3 cents in, with out the need for quoting others all the time, you must assume everyone hear is stupid and can not figure it for themselves. Do you feel you are doing them a service, they need your quotes cause they don't have the brains to see it for them selves.
This reminds me of the commerical about Bobby and his Oreo cookies, at the school lunchroom, How the story gets changed evertime it is passed from one person to the next. at the end the young boy has the message all messed up and wrong.
Try just posting your Ideas, not Quoting Another members Ideas, Get some spark in you life, Quite being a copy cat......Mrghost.....
Assumption is the Mother of Evil....

If you feel that someone has quoted you out of context, it's not too difficult to find your original post, repost the part that shows the original context, and show everyone that the out of context quote is in error.

FaithLikeARock · May 19, 2008

mrghost said:
That was not very nice.... This is America... I get to Share what ever I want, when ever I want to. Excuse Me.
I served in the Army and paid for my freedom and yours.
To say what I want, when I want. Thats America, Get over it. Grow up a little....Mrghost...

So I supposed I am free to slander any group I want? Of course not. You share your testimony. Not others. It's disrespectful. Especially when a person has had hard times that is a fault of their own you don't share it. You have no right too.

mrghost · May 19, 2008

I disagree. I have the right to say what I want
And you have the right to say what you want,
and I will always disagree with anyone who tryies to downsize
a persons right to say what they want to.
There are allot of things I would like to say to you, but not in public. So I am showing you some respect.
Some people are Tacky.........
Thats just the way it is, Get over it Mrghost...

Asimov · May 19, 2008

mrghost said:
I disagree. I have the right to say what I want
And you have the right to say what you want,
and I will always disagree with anyone who tryies to downsize
a persons right to say what they want to.
There are allot of things I would like to say to you, but not in public. So I am showing you some respect.
Some people are Tacky.........
Thats just the way it is, Get over it Mrghost...

Unfortunately, you're wrong. Slander and libel are not covered under freedom of speech.

mrghost · May 19, 2008

1. Sin pushes you away from the blessings of God, It hurts you, Those Who know you, and those around you.
2.
Sin can have delayed deadly effects and can catch you later on in life and bite you in the Basket.
3.
I can say this cause my sins from 30 years ago has caught up to me, and now
I dont have long to live.
4.
just like it killed my cousin 22 years down the road, It has also caught.
5.
I have warned you, my hands are now clean, I you die from a sin you will have no excuse because you have been warned.
6.
There is forgivness of Sins through Jesus Christ, For he paid the fine: for your sins, if you accept that.
7.
Some sins Kill you quickly, others are a slow death.
8.
I am not accusing anyone of sin. But only telling two true stories Of my Cousin and Myself, How that sin has caught up with us and pushed us to an early grave.
9
Reason: so you don't make the same mistake, as I am required to say so, according to the Bible.
To warn others to flee from all sin, for it will cost you dearly.
The Bible: The soul that sins shall die.
A nation that has a high percentage of sin will be destroyed.
Repent while there is time, For the Clock is fixing to strike 12:00 in the word of prophecy. when the whole world will be severly punished,
Choose this Day what side you are on, For soon the war will start and you will be forced to one side or the other.
Right now you have the freedom to choose, That may not be so 1 year from now, There are many surprises coming to earth and will catch many off guard, The earth is fixing to shake rattle and roll. stars shall fall out of the skies poisoning the water supply, periods of no rain, no food. fires and wars everywhere, a whole world gone mad, Islands disappearing, Whole cities flattened out in ruin. Starving Riots, I wish I could tell you all that is coming, But that would not be fair. Accept the lord in faith not fear.....For he is a shield in time of trouble...Mrghost......Bye..Bye....

quatona · May 19, 2008

mrghost said:
THERE IS A PROBLEM,... WHEN PEOPLE QUOTE WHAT OTHERS HAVE POSTED ON A ASSUMPTION BASIS.

Quoting a person and addressing the quote is typically considered the way to make sure and to demonstrate you are not working from assumptions, but from what he said.

Whilst your habit of continually accusing me and others broadly without backing those claims up is actually the problem.

You can watch the message get messed up twisted, bent out of context and form.
Every one need to stop quoting each other, they can read it for them selves,

No, quoting is the best way of showing which statement you are responding to.
If you think I have distorted your message and removed a relevant context, you can easily show what it is that I left out. Interestingly you don´t do that, but instead you add reproach to reproach without any substantiation whatsoever.

Quoting a assumption misses the mark of truth everytime, Seems like the more things are quoted the greater percentage there is for errors to generate.

These errors can easily be traced. Whilst not quoting someone and making accusations out of thin air doesn´t even allow for a discussion.

Can't you put your 3 cents in, with out the need for quoting others all the time, you must assume everyone hear is stupid and can not figure it for themselves.

Well, I can do that, but I won´t. It´s not because I think people are stupid, but because it´s hard to figure out which and whose statement you are addressing on a message board. I find it helpful when people quote me so that I know which part of my post they are responding to, and I find it helpful with posts of others, too.
This way has proven useful and helpful on discussion boards, so you better get used to it. You are expected to clarify whom you are talking to and what in his post you are talking about. Broad rants based on mere mindreading are not the way discussions work.

Do you feel you are doing them a service, they need your quotes cause they don't have the brains to see it for them selves.

Yes, I think it does everyone a favour. Sometimes there are dozens or hundreds of (partly very long) posts, and not knowing what a particular statement responds to is not a matter of stupidity, but a systemic problem. Hence quoting has become the generally accepted way to solve this problem.

Usually people complain if you don´t quote the post you respond to.

This reminds me of the commerical about Bobby and his Oreo cookies, at the school lunchroom, How the story gets changed evertime it is passed from one person to the next. at the end the young boy has the message all messed up and wrong.

Your vivid power of imagination and the creativity of your association chains are certainly admirable, but in this case completely besides the point. Quoting is differnt from Chinese Whisper in several essential ways.Firstly, the exact statement as it reads there is identically copied, secondly it is not passed on several times, but only quoted once.

Try just posting your Ideas, not Quoting Another members Ideas, Get some spark in you life, Quite being a copy cat......Mrghost.....

If I want to address the ideas of others and post my ideas about it, quoting them is the best way to go.

Assumption is the Mother of Evil....

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So true. However, you were the one who releatedly engaged in mere mindreading and were called upon it.
Quoting is not an assumption, quoting is the very opposite.

Steezie · May 19, 2008

mrghost said:
That was not very nice.... This is America... I get to Share what ever I want, when ever I want to. Excuse Me.

No ya actually dont. You cant harass people.

I served in the Army and paid for my freedom and yours.

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And Im a welder, I help build the things that make this country run. I have done my part in equal share as you have.

To say what I want, when I want. Thats America

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No thats idealistic and NOT America. Your speech here is free provided you do not infringe uppon the rights of others

WatersMoon110 · May 20, 2008

mrghost said:
Do you feel you are doing them a service, they need your quotes cause they don't have the brains to see it for them selves.

quatona said:
Yes, I think it does everyone a favour. Sometimes there are dozens or hundreds of (partly very long) posts, and not knowing what a particular statement responds to is not a matter of stupidity, but a systemic problem. Hence quoting has become the generally accepted way to solve this problem.

Usually people complain if you don´t quote the post you respond to.

I agree, it's easier to follow a conversation on a thread if people quote one another. Especially if people quote just the sections of a post they are responding to.

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