Biblical and other support for those Hurting badly!

Jeshu · Dec 4, 2015

Can we repent of all of our sins in one go? Some people demand that. They demand this born again experience - where what you feel stands central - if you feel saved then you are lucky but if you don't feel saved then you are judged. The works of people stands central and not the work of God.

Now please don't get me wrong, there is a time to come to Christ, and such an experience can mean profound and lasting change - what I mean is those religious people idolising such an experience and forgetting that we must die everyday to our sinful self. The collection of souls becomes focussed on bringing people such experiences. It is often a real trampling of the outer courts and often a very harsh demanding and loveless attitude towards those who don't experience Christ like that. Mentally ill people often receive the brunt of such religious attitudes. Many Churches have such self-proclaimed and judgemental people

I don't believe that salvation is an one off. I don't believe it depends on our word of faith. According to the bible salvation is a gift that is granted to everyone - 1 Timothy 4:9-10 - it is a process that has a beginning and an end - eternal life - or - eternal damnation - which is granted/handed out from moment to moment - depending on the spirituality in which we have our existence.

For example if we hate life - any living thing on this planet - then we hate God who has created that life - and are an offence to Him being like that. So the Day the truth of God enters our hearts - Jesus comes for a visit - then hate for God's created life dies within us and is replaced with love and admiration. After His love has been we will never hate God's good life again!

However do we always hate life, was hating life all the life that dwelt within us? Maybe we said a prayer for a sick brother or sister only moments before we judged a poor beggar on the streets unworthy of our love or support. We are judged or rewarded for our life in deed. God is completely just and will always find the evildoers inside of our hearts and 'zap them with His lightening' or reward us for doing good on the day of His visitation.

If we have life in loveless or untrue spirituality and suffer that then please don't fear God but know that He wants to safe us from the wicked and set us free from their power.

The Word of God sets the captives free and judges the oppressors. This is the best news for depressed people. Depressed people hurt the presence of the wicked on a constant basis. The word of God is in particularly well suited to set those who hurt the wicked free.

Spiritually He transforms us and rebuilds our heart into His kingdom. Jesus is a wonderful Lord.

Psalm 92

It is good to praise the Lord
and make music to your name, O Most High,
proclaiming your love in the morning
and your faithfulness at night,
to the music of the ten-stringed lyre
and the melody of the harp.

For you make me glad by your deeds, Lord;
I sing for joy at what your hands have done.
How great are your works, Lord,
how profound your thoughts!
Senseless people do not know,
fools do not understand,
that though the wicked spring up like grass
and all evildoers flourish,
they will be destroyed forever.

But you, Lord, are forever exalted.

For surely your enemies, Lord,
surely your enemies will perish;
all evildoers will be scattered.
You have exalted my horn like that of a wild ox;
fine oils have been poured on me.
My eyes have seen the defeat of my adversaries;
my ears have heard the rout of my wicked foes.

The righteous will flourish like a palm tree,
they will grow like a cedar of Lebanon;
planted in the house of the Lord,
they will flourish in the courts of our God.
They will still bear fruit in old age,
they will stay fresh and green,
proclaiming, “The Lord is upright;
he is my Rock, and there is no wickedness in him.”

Jeshu · Jan 5, 2016

The way out of depression is through the truth of God. Not many people realise that God is all truth - also your depressed on, and that therefore His suffering is more real than we can ever imagine - see the Lamb of God - He is the One who keeps it all together, both spiritually and physically. All things have being in Him.

When I was suicidally depressed - I had no hope - hopelessness engulfed me daily and send me down into the bottomless pit. It wasn't until I read the word of God that this situation became clear to me.

1 Corinthians 13:13 ends with the words - " And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love."

I had neither faith left in God, nor hope, and only a little bit of love, for my loved ones, though I felt more and more cut off from them as time went by, all I wanted was to die, I was very selfish in my desire to die, and had my whole suicide meticulously worked out and ready waiting for me. It would be easy I knew. If I could just not feel sorry for my loved ones. I knew the truth of suicide, our brother in law committed suicide and left his family in disarray. It was this little bit of real tested and trialled love that Jesus used to renew me, a stump in the land, allowed to sprout out again and flourish.

Where in the bible did I find myself? Where in the truth was I written. The first thing that happened was that I noticed that in my heart there was so much division. I existed not in one but in very many this confused me at first enormously, the other thing I knew was that I was in a very bad place.

The I read;

Revelation 20:2-3
He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

This told me where I was, I was in the bottomless pit - Satan had put me there because I had believed His lies and so he come out of his dwelling place and dwelt within me, squandering my good life imprisoning, enslaving, oppressing and killing my good life on a daily basis, dragging me into his web of lies and devouring me.

He could do this because I had been unfaithful to God's truth and believed lies that killed the truth and brought me misery. The Bible sowed me that lies ruling the hearts of people caused reality to be bad and that it had nothing to do with God, When Jesus said when you have seen me than you have seen the Father, I realised what we liars and lied to do, we kill the truth of ourselves in our heart and become someone different than we really are - and so we murder God within us and become evil instead of good.

What were some of the lies I believed?

I believed I was the son of lawlessness
I believed I was the anti-Christ.
I believed I was going to go to hell.
I believed God was punishing me
I believed God hated me.
I believed that I was no good.
I believed the lies of despair, misery and hopelessness.
I believed that I was stuck with compulsive and terrible sins because Jesus wouldn't save me from them.
I believed not many people loved me.

I had done so many sins in my manic years, including cursing God to His face in my depressed and psychotic rages. I was stuck with scores of addictions. I had been deeply depressed for seven years, (and often depressed before that.) I was often psychotic and had all kind of evil voices telling me what to do. I was a spiritual mess.

Until the truth dawned! A light right in my darkest place, I listened to the truth I heard in my heart, the truth of the bible, no worldly truths were allowed apart of what real existed in the truth of God. I began to ban the lies and quote texts from the bible to negate them but above all I began to plant the seed of God's word in my heart. I read it constantly and sought its truths to guide my life.

Honest brothers and sisters it is amazing what the truth does within us, it break down the power that the lies have over us. For example;
When hopelessness strikes - and speaks its depressive reality inside of you - then instead of agreeing and 'eating' the lies hopelessness feeds us, we disagree and quote God's word, set THE TRUTH UP AGAINST THE LIES telling hopelessness that we serve God now and not hopelessness any longer, then very soon hopeless thoughts will begin to die inside of us, even if our depression keeps on going.

God's truth doesn't accuse us, like the accuser in our guilty conscience does, but it sets us free from wrong, sometimes really quickly and sometimes over longer periods of time. The whole spiritual cleansing process has been meticulously documented in the bible, were we find an incredible hallelujah cry among the righteous within us and utter slaughter in the unrighteous ones in us. The truth truly transforms us.

It has been years since the first time I met the truth in my heart, Jesus working within me and teaching me how things really are. I have a depressive illness - I'm schizo effective - and depressive moods will always have a part in my physical life - but it is awesome how Jesus set me free from the lies I had been stuck with for so many years.

The Word of God - read it with your heart as a personal address - and you will see that the truth of God sets you truly free. For instead of wallowing in the dirt of my sins, I sowed the truth of God's word there in, no self effort required, apart of fighting to stay in His truth. (For when we go back to the lies then the wicked trample and kill the truth sown and make a big troubling mess out of what was a good place.) In God's truth is safety.

I wrote a poem about the division of the goats from the sheep and the coming of the kingdom in this poem.

Zion Descending

At first I heard Dad say,
"Son let us make tracks,
its near getting dark now,
the chosen are all asleep,
now would be best,
as darkness reigns its peak,
for arrogance has him blinded,
to what is really going on."

I saw the sunlight darkened,
the moon turn to blood,
and the stars falling from Heaven.
I felt everything shaking in its boots.
I heard about wars and rumours of wars.
I experienced famine and drought,
grand scale living in wantonness,
rulers making a living out of sin,
Satan's forces installed everywhere,
loveless forces ruling untruthfully.

I heard my inner world crying out in her dying pain,
"What is going on?
The Father is leaving us without the Son,
this can only evil mean."
I heard the angels blow the trumpets!
"Woe to the inhabitants of this soul!"

I heard the agonising cries,
coming from underneath the altar,
the dead in God's love, longingly,
awaiting newness of life!
"Yes, oh Lord, pour out their blood as they did ours!"

I heard the thunders rolling throughout my being,
"Let evil brood fear The Truth of God almighty!
Let judgement begin in The House of God!"

I knew judgement had already began,
when I beheld those massive hails stones,
tumbling down on the heads of the wicked.
I watched my enemies flee in terror!
Scorpion stings burning wrong,
horse hooves kicking up dirt,
truthfulness uncovering shame,
honesty baring nakedness,
the dung of the earth warring,
lies sores causing agony,
pestilence threatening,
as grasshoppers devoured,
my enemies food and good life!

It was fascinating to see,
how weak those are...,
.....so strong in lies!

Yes, honest!
Loving truth is like that!
The freedom to be,
true to yourself,
both in good and bad,
in His love to be.

Oh the release of faith!
Heart rendering awe!
Shouts of glorious praise!
Jumping joy - pure ecstasy!
Glorying in God almighty,
my life's tormentors died,
perishing one after the other.

Seeing Jesus on His white horse,
a blazing sword coming out of His mouth,
His all conquering loving truth
my inner world of being to reap.
Casting dead what is so good to have gone,
raising alive that which I had lost,
bringing new life at each dawn,
His kingdom ruling my world of being,
His presence bringing rest and peace.

Time and again He comes past like this,
(terrorising the wicked agonising their mates demise,)
as all His wheels turn into place.
The Word alive in heavenly love.
Costly gifts descending from above.
beholding the temple of the most high,
the truth of His love Himself my Zion.

Jeshu · Feb 1, 2016

Darkest black brought greatest light when Jesus came and visited me in my pit. All I had on offer was my rage and my miserable depressed life. I didn't do one good deed for Him to come. It wasn't my faith that saved me either, I raged at Him to start off with and accused Him of all kinds of wrongs. Yet He brought the light! Completely undeserved merit. Their was nothing good left in me, good life had long since perished. Jesus came to a miserable sinner who had done it all wrong and hadn't lift a finger to help or love any one for years. Still He came to visit me.

How did I know it was Him and not my psychotic mind speaking?

1) Number one you don't mistake Christ when He comes because He is the truth of your whole life. The light dawns from east to west and from north to south, my whole inner being saw Him. Witness number one He is the truth of your whole life and knows you most intimately. Jesus knew me much better than I knew myself.

2) Everything He said was confirmed by the bible. Wherever I opened up He spoke The Word before I read it. His accuracy is incredible. What you sow you shall harvest He told me. Completely without judgement while He showed me my life in action - my recall He used - to do this.

3) He spoke in love and through love Himself. His love is incredible - everything I ever longed after was fulfilled just seeing Him speak in my heart. Jesus is love Himself.

4) Not only that His words are prophecy - Revelation 19:10b tells us and such is indeed true. God told me that He was going to teach me new things Isaiah 48:3-8, things I had never known before. How true has all of that turned out to be? His life is prophecy and His life on earth was to fulfil the law and set us free from it destructive power and let us dwell in the laws Godly attributes. Psalm 119

5) He gave me Heavenly manna to eat - I was satisfied my inner hunger had been stilled - what a banquet did Jesus prepare for me (and us all) unbelievable!!! Revelation 3:19-20 However people don't want to come that is the truth of the matter. People are just like I used to be (and at times still am) to busy sinning to care about God or neighbour. When they arrive in their pit then they will also meet the darkness for out of greatest darkness comes His light. Isaiah 9:2

6) Jesus was completely just and at no time accused me off wrong or judged me, rather He showed me how to sow the good seed and left it at that. He gave me a way out of my misery as well as new hope to escape my misery (I was suicidal at the time.)

7) Jesus was in my heart and came completely down to my level, no Lording it over me though He is our Lord. Jesus has incredible ability to suffer and the best part is that He makes good come out of suffering unlike my depression ever produced. Later I was to discover how religion had polluted my mind and worked against the kingdom of God and not for it. In my religious self I perished at the time of His visitation, He is just so much better than religion teaches or portrays and when He says something then He sets free not the other way around.

all in all He used The Word of God to teach me all about Him and His kingdom, utterly fascinating and totally trustworthy. Wishing you all hear Him knocking on the door of your heart and open up to Him and let yourself be renewed by His light of day. Depression can be beaten, God's truth will set you free.

Tempura · Feb 2, 2016

Thank you for that, Jeshu. I love you man.

Press On · Feb 2, 2016

Awesome and inspiring, Gerry.

Extraneous · Feb 2, 2016

Jeshu said:
Can we repent of all of our sins in one go? Some people demand that. They demand this born again experience - where what you feel stands central - if you feel saved then you are lucky but if you don't feel saved then you are judged. The works of people stands central and not the work of God.

Now please don't get me wrong, there is a time to come to Christ, and such an experience can mean profound and lasting change - what I mean is those religious people idolising such an experience and forgetting that we must die everyday to our sinful self. The collection of souls becomes focussed on bringing people such experiences. It is often a real trampling of the outer courts and often a very harsh demanding and loveless attitude towards those who don't experience Christ like that. Mentally ill people often receive the brunt of such religious attitudes. Many Churches have such self-proclaimed and judgemental people

I don't believe that salvation is an one off. I don't believe it depends on our word of faith. According to the bible salvation is a gift that is granted to everyone - 1 Timothy 4:9-10 - it is a process that has a beginning and an end - eternal life - or - eternal damnation - which is granted/handed out from moment to moment - depending on the spirituality in which we have our existence.

For example if we hate life - any living thing on this planet - then we hate God who has created that life - and are an offence to Him being like that. So the Day the truth of God enters our hearts - Jesus comes for a visit - then hate for God's created life dies within us and is replaced with love and admiration. After His love has been we will never hate God's good life again!

However do we always hate life, was hating life all the life that dwelt within us? Maybe we said a prayer for a sick brother or sister only moments before we judged a poor beggar on the streets unworthy of our love or support. We are judged or rewarded for our life in deed. God is completely just and will always find the evildoers inside of our hearts and 'zap them with His lightening' or reward us for doing good on the day of His visitation.

If we have life in loveless or untrue spirituality and suffer that then please don't fear God but know that He wants to safe us from the wicked and set us free from their power.

The Word of God sets the captives free and judges the oppressors. This is the best news for depressed people. Depressed people hurt the presence of the wicked on a constant basis. The word of God is in particularly well suited to set those who hurt the wicked free.

Spiritually He transforms us and rebuilds our heart into His kingdom. Jesus is a wonderful Lord.

Psalm 92

It is good to praise the Lord
and make music to your name, O Most High,
proclaiming your love in the morning
and your faithfulness at night,
to the music of the ten-stringed lyre
and the melody of the harp.

For you make me glad by your deeds, Lord;
I sing for joy at what your hands have done.
How great are your works, Lord,
how profound your thoughts!
Senseless people do not know,
fools do not understand,
that though the wicked spring up like grass
and all evildoers flourish,
they will be destroyed forever.

But you, Lord, are forever exalted.

For surely your enemies, Lord,
surely your enemies will perish;
all evildoers will be scattered.
You have exalted my horn like that of a wild ox;
fine oils have been poured on me.
My eyes have seen the defeat of my adversaries;
my ears have heard the rout of my wicked foes.

The righteous will flourish like a palm tree,
they will grow like a cedar of Lebanon;
planted in the house of the Lord,
they will flourish in the courts of our God.
They will still bear fruit in old age,
they will stay fresh and green,
proclaiming, “The Lord is upright;
he is my Rock, and there is no wickedness in him.”

We should never be judged for our hope in the Gospel of our Lord. The bible promises blessing for that hope. Hope is a blessing. I love hope. Hope does not need to be observed in such a rigid manner that it would condemn a person for having doubts and fears. Romans chapter 8 is about persevering during tribulation, but its not a promise that life would be easy. Its a guide for the trials we face. Where would our victory come from if we didn't first have difficulty? Sometimes waiting on God means to have doubts and fears. It also means that they are a blessing which lead us closer to the Lord.

Romans 8:24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have? 25 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.

Extraneous · Feb 2, 2016

Jeshu said:
Often depressed people find it hard to read The Bible for it seems to make them feel guilty.

It was like that for me very often even - especially when depressed and guilt, shame, confusion, uselessness and fear were pressed down on me. I also used to hate The Books of The Preacher at first - for I saw myself as a lazy person - for that is what my mum and dad always called me when I was depressed and didn't feel like doing anything.

However Jesus showed me a different way to deal with such - anti-Christ like feelings and thoughts - those moments which bring us dislike, shame or guilt when we read God's Word to ourselves - especially The Punishments of God on The Wicked - in The Old Testament or God's Wrath on The Wicked as revealed in The Book of Revelation in The New Testament.

Yet in Truth - it are The Wicked who makes us feel like that inside our hearts - (The Goats say you are the goat) - and us hurting those feelings are the ones who need to be freed from that -( The Sheep is scared he/she is the goat)

It is BEST to understand that for otherwise The Wicked will keep ruling you with miseries lies - for The Bible - and in particular God's punishments on The wicked ruling your heart and mind - will free you who is suffering from underneath their yoke of oppression.

For you can repent of heeding/believing/eating lies and let The Love of God's Truth - Jesus Christ - set you free from them and have His Truthful Love rule you instead.

Be most blessed all those who must still suffer Bad Life - Please Know The Truth - BE READY TO LEAVE THE LIES RULING - follow The Truth of God's undying Love - our Lord Jesus - He can rescue you from your pain and misery - no matter how ill you are or still have to be in time ahead.

When we await Him, The Bible says,

Behold He is Coming Soon....

Peace.

Life's Lesson.

The one thing I learned in my life
Reality has more than one way
For The Truth can torch my soul
or through love take me to paradise.

The Bible accuses me when I seek wrong,
but His love guides me when I seek right.
His Love is so very gentle when I'm His,
but kindles a fire when I walk with the wicked.

At first I saw pain as a terrible liability,
yet suffering has made me a better person.
When young I burned-up my joy for pleasures,
now my joyous heart in thankfulness runs over.

Life gives whatever side you serve
Loving truth or running out of time
All for self means nothing will be left over
While sharing breeds more good for all.

I have felt that way too. Scriptures made me feel guilty. There was also another reason i couldn't read scripture though, and it was much worse. I hated the fact that we have so many denominations which disagree with one another. IT wars against your faith because it plants seeds of doubt. I mean, if the preachers are not 100% in agreement then they are also not 100% correct either. That really shakes your faith a little. It made we want to stop listening to scripture, that and hardship that i face.

I stopped listening to preachers before i became so bitter over divided teachers, and i decided to put faith in God that he would teach me himself, just as He promised us. After my recent trials in life i have got passed my bitterness, after God renewed my strength. Talk about trusting Gods promises. He promised to teach us Himself.

Extraneous · Feb 2, 2016

Something just occurred to me. Perhaps God allows preachers to be fallible because he is trying to tell us something. Maybe hes reminding us about His promise to give us the holy spirit teacher.

This promise seems to be overlooked so often. Yet its one of the most profound promises of God. It screams from the rooftops throughout scripture.

1 Peter 2:2

Isaiah 54:13

Matthew 23:8

John 6:45

1 John 2:27

James 1:5

John 14

Tempura · Feb 2, 2016

Agreed. At times it seems, especially when struggling and reading the Bible, that on the left there's condemnation, shackles and burdens. And on the right there's salvation, grace and freedom. It feels like having to make a choice. It can be discomforting, because I don't always understand why some things seem to be contradictory.

It's great though that we don't need any middlemen. We have Jesus, but He's so much more than just a middleman. It's Him I want to put my hope in. And so I do. No matter if I sometimes feel condemned, or don't understand things that bother me. I am simple, and God knows it. I can reach out to Him anytime. I love that simplicity of it. It's for everyone.

Extraneous · Feb 2, 2016

Proverbs 1 Out in the open wisdom calls aloud, she cries out,
at the city gate she makes her speech:

Mathew 10:27 What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs.

Extraneous · Feb 2, 2016

Tempura said:
Agreed. At times it seems, especially when struggling and reading the Bible, that on the left there's condemnation, shackles and burdens. And on the right there's salvation, grace and freedom. It feels like having to make a choice. It can be discomforting, because I don't always understand why some things seem to be contradictory.

It's great though that we don't need any middlemen. We have Jesus, but He's so much more than just a middleman. It's Him I want to put my hope in. And so I do. No matter if I sometimes feel condemned, or don't understand things that bother me. I am simple, and God knows it. I can reach out to Him anytime. I love that simplicity of it. It's for everyone.

Thats how i handle my guilt as well, but not always so well. I have had times that my guilt was so severe that i felt lost. Mercy endures however, and grace sustains us. We cannot hide from God and he already knows our shame. That makes it easy because we dont need to waste time trying to hide. God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble. There is Hope in the Lord. He came to save the lost, and i am lost. Therefore i have much hope.

Extraneous · Feb 2, 2016

Praise the Lord.

John 6:35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

43 “Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Jesus answered. 44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’[d] Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me.

Tempura · Feb 2, 2016

Extraneous said:
Thats how i handle my guilt as well, but not always so well. I have had times that my guilt was so severe that i felt lost. Mercy endures however, and grace sustains us. We cannot hide from God and he already knows our shame. That makes it easy because we dont need to waste time trying to hide. God resists the proud be gives grace to the humble. There is Hope in the Lord. He came to save the lost, and i am lost. Therefore i have much hope.

Exactly. There are no pretenses when we are like that, and it humbles us, and when we're humble, we're always knowingly reliant on grace.

And if I feel too condemned, I try to remember that God is love. If I can love, if I can forgive, if I can help - my love is nothing compared to God's perfect love. It can put my mind at ease sometimes, realizing what kind of God I believe in. Not in a torturer or a trickster laying traps at our feet, but a Father who is perfect in love.

Extraneous · Feb 2, 2016

Tempura said:
Exactly. There are no pretenses when we are like that, and it humbles us, and when we're humble, we're always knowingly reliant on grace.

And if I feel too condemned, I try to remember that God is love. If I can love, if I can forgive, if I can help - my love is nothing compared to God's perfect love. It can put my mind at ease sometimes, realizing what kind of God I believe in. Not in a torturer or a trickster laying traps at our feet, but a Father who is perfect in love.

He is patient.

Extraneous · Feb 2, 2016

Extraneous said:
Praise the Lord.

John 6:35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

43 “Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Jesus answered. 44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’[d] Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me.

As im reading this scripture, im realizing what its saying. Its not about the Lords supper as we tend to think, but its about the Holy Spirit teacher.

John 6:35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life.

45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’[d] Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me.

1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.

Extraneous · Feb 2, 2016

A priest is anointed. We need no earthly priest because of the anointing which is promised to us all, we are all priests because of the anointing. The anointing is the teacher within us all, and therefore we need no other teacher. What is written is all that's needed. The power of the word comes by hearing the word.

Extraneous · Feb 2, 2016

The power of the word doesn't come by speaking it, or singing it, or chanting it in another language. It comes by hearing.

Extraneous · Feb 2, 2016

I believe that the promises of healing are about spiritual things. Hearing the word is about healing the spiritually deaf. Blessed are those who have ears to hear. Its spiritual hearing. Some will say that Gods miracles are about a physical manifestation of healing, but i think that the physical is like a shadow of the spiritual. Just as the old covenant way is only a shadow, so is the physical world. In my opinion.

Jeshu · Feb 2, 2016

Extraneous said:
I have felt that way too. Scriptures made me feel guilty. There was also another reason i couldn't read scripture though, and it was much worse. I hated the fact that we have so many denominations which disagree with one another. IT wars against your faith because it plants seeds of doubt. I mean, if the preachers are not 100% in agreement then they are also not 100% correct either. That really shakes your faith a little. It made we want to stop listening to scripture, that and hardship that i face.

I stopped listening to preachers before i became so bitter over divided teachers, and i decided to put faith in God that he would teach me himself, just as He promised us. After my recent trials in life i have got passed my bitterness, after God renewed my strength. Talk about trusting Gods promises. He promised to teach us Himself.

Oh brother I love you that is also what I did. I threw everything overboard apart of the Word of God and only let it back in if I found that it didn't contradict the bible anywhere. I didn't know that the bible is a blue print of our souls and that we really do have to go through the book of Revelation in real life - eternally even - for it is the word of God that brings down the New Jerusalem - a renewed mind. A very humbling experience. Also study the prophet Ezekiel a lot - like Revelation it is a prophecy that takes place in our hearts in real life, a refined version of the book of Revelation really. Let the books of Isaiah and Jeremiah teach you Jew from Jew within you and find renewed hope in the book of Lamentations when you realise you have lived in sinful spirituality and now have to go through the great desolation.

So yes let The Word teach you, please never ignore what people say but test it past the word and then when it has stood the test of time then we can use it as building block in His kingdom, otherwise we just know that this person believes so and so, and seek opportunities to show them the differences.

The kingdom of God is within us. At first we see the son (or daughter of lawlessness) . Then we have the great desolation, The Jesus comes for a visit. Then we have to escape religion. Then we see the rise of the dragon and the harlot, the rise and fall of the numbered. The great persecution and then Babylon falls. Not till then will the hallelujah song start as The Word begins to cut down our inner enemies. This is when wrong fights to retain its standing of power within our sinful hearts, but the more we begin to love Him and adore Him the more our scale fall from our eyes and we begin to see around us. The whole process could be likened to a natural birth in the spiritual real. Amazing when the light goes on and all we do is drink but it wont take long and you will be crawling on your belly, knees and then upright. Jesus is an awesome Brother and everybody else is there as well. God the Father is best, no one beats The Father, even the Son goes on His knees for Him. God gives out His Godhead freely, we are all welcome around His table.

Be warned my brother the devil is also in our hearts and he is very clever and resourceful - he has a lot of life in our attitudes, values and morals and our worldly education - in my life they were my real life idols. Pride and arrogance were also real evil doers in my life and became my downfall and reaped me heaps of misery, arrogance and pride the lawless one has like pearly necklace around his neck.

But Jesus wins the battle we cannot overcome, that is the good news brother, He will teach us Himself. As He already does I know for sure you have heaps to tell and share about Him as well. We have all learned the truth from the truth Himself that is the amazing thing about Him, He divides Himself among us equally.

So good to meet you here.

Jeshu · Feb 2, 2016

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I believe that the promises of healing are about spiritual things. Hearing the word is about healing the spiritually deaf. Blessed are those who have ears to hear. Its spiritual hearing. Some will say that Gods miracles are about a physical manifestation of healing, but i think that the physical is like a shadow of the spiritual. Just as the old covenant way is only a shadow, so is the physical world. In my opinion.

Yeah I think you hit the nail on the head here brother. - the physical is like a shadow of the spiritual - so very true.

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