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ukok

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my children never want to go to bed!

What time do you send/take your children to bed, what routines do you follow/ do older children go to bed later or do all ages get sent up at the same time . Do your children ever get out of bed and sneak into yours ?

i'm just curious
 

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LOL............. SOUNDS LIKE FUN AT YOUR HOUSE!!!

i put my girls down at 830pm week nights but on weekends it doesnt matter.everyone at the sametime, no favorites at my house. and last night my oldest came in the room 4 times wanting someone to lay with her. bad dreams i think
 
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how old are your children Greg?

ukok, what time do you put your children to bed? I have to send my two at the same time, as there's only 12 months between them in age, and the youngest gets very upset if the oldest stays up later. BUT, my eldest is hardly ever ready for bed when I send them up, but my youngest needs a lot more sleep.

I send them to bed at 8:00. Well, they go to get ready at 7:30 and have to have pray and everything by 8:00, but it often goes later than that. At weekends they're allowed to stay up later, I try for 8:30 but it's usually closer to 9:00 or even 9:30. Oh, they're 7 and 8 years old.

Bedtimes are a real battle. My 8 year old is constantly up and down stairs with some excuse or other, and many nights he's still awake when I go to bed. It's 9:30 right now, and he's still wide awake and has been down twice so far. grrrrrrrr, kids!!! lol
 
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LoL, i so like the straps idea EJO...

Greg, yep, it's fun fun fun here in England, between the hours of 8:30 pm and 7 am!

Simcha,

Now my oldest is getting ready to go to High School in September, i am allowing her to stay up until about 9:15, my son is supposed to go to bed at 8:30 pm, which rarely comes to fruition!

my daughter is going to be 12 in November and my son will be 8 in August. I think those times are fairly generous, but they don't think so...and my son gets out of bed and comes downstairs ...All the time....ARGH! Can you hear that sound?....it's me tearing my hair out!
 
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I really sympathise [hug]ukok[/hug]

My 8 year old has just gone to sleep I think!!! I daren't go and check incase I disturb him!!

I know there was a thread going about this before the crash, but can't remember if you'd tried the treat bribe to get your son to stay in bed? I know that most things I've tried have only lasted a few nights before the novelty wears off.

You should get a stress ball or something, you're going to need your hair for when your daughter's a teenager LOL
 
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i'll buy a wig instead!

I feel quite upset when my son disrespects me by disobeying me and getting out of bed, but at the same time I want to hug him and reassure him. I suppose i think that the couple of hours i have before going to bed, should be time for me, but invariably, one or both of my children ensure that i get little time for me. I post here inbetween going up and down the stairs to take my son back to bed, getting him a drink, giving him a cuddle, reprimanding him for playing when he should be sleeping. It also makes me cross that he keeps his sister awake as he is so diruptive at times.

They have me all to themselves when they come home from school, but it's not enough for them, they demand my attention all through the evening as well. I have also done star charts, reward strategies etc, but they cease to work once the novelty has worn off. I suppose they will grow out of it one day. Can't imagine 10 years from now, my almost 18 year old son coming down stairs repeatedly for hugs! LOL, although stranger things may have happened.
 
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I so understand what you are going through, but it must be really tough having to cope with that on your own. I know there are times when my kids come down and I want to tell them that they can sit and watch t.v. with me for a while, but I know that's not the right thing to do.


A lot of the time they'll walk right past me (I spend most evenings sitting at the computer which is next to the kitchen table....our downstairs is all open-plan so I can watch t.v. from here too!!!) My hubby sits in his study, which is in the next room to me, and the kids walk past me to talk to daddy. It makes me so mad, especially as he's usually had a busy day at work and I know he needs his space much more than I do, as I don't go out to work. But, on the other hand I get upset that they ignore me, and I know that a lot of the time they just want a few more minutes with daddy!!

Last night my daughter woke up as I was going to bed. She came into my bedroom and asked to sleep with me until my hubby came to bed (which is usually 1/2 an hour to an hour later than me) and I was so tempted to let her, but I made her go back to her own bed, and she was still awake an hour later when hubby came to bed!! I wish now I'd let her stay with me, I never seem to do the right thing LOL

All this talk of sleep is getting to me....I'm off to bed in a mo. I hope you have an undisturbed night's sleep, and I'm sure our kids will grow out of this annoying habit eventually!!!

Goodnight
 
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I used to send the younger kids to bed at 8:30 and my oldest at 9:30. As it is now, if they get up they can stay up. If they don't get up when called, bed time is reintroduced. Funny how quickly they can go to sleep when I start getting them up at 6:30 instead of 7:30 or 8.

Many times we don't even get home from church or activities till 9 so bedtimes are hard to keep, but up at 7:30 is the rule, and no sleeping in your breakfast!!!
 
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LOL.. high school?? I thought you were talking about toddlers. I am with Beckijhn, if they can get up, they can stay up. I encouraged 10 pm for high schoolers and middle school. Kindergarten through 6th was 9 pm.
When each were about three, they were always coming into our room to try to sleep with us. I kept a pillow and sleeping bag on the floor by my side of the bed and they could stay there if they wanted. There isn't enough room for 3 in our bed.
 
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Here's an idea--from someone who had an extremely early bedtime as a child. (I was having to go to bed at 8:30 up until I was 15 years old.) Make them go to their room, but dont' necessarily force them to go to sleep. Let them know that once they go in for the night, they are not allowed to leave the room (except obviously for a bathroom break or something--but give them a glass of ice water, so there won't be any water fits). Then they can read or play or whatever. I've seen several parents do this, and it seems to work wonders. They NEVER have battles with their children about going to bed anymore. Just a suggestion I thought I'd share!
 
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That's a good one Cammie. I've done that with my kids. Once I put them in bed they usually stay there and fall right asleep, but there are occasional nights when they can't seem to settle themselves down. So I let them keep the light on and they may look at books or play with toys quietly. But they are not to leave the room. They really enjoy the quiet time alone, and they just turn out the light themselves and go to sleep when they're ready--usually less than 30 minutes later.
 
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I have a five year old that hasn't slept in years. Then I have one a year and a half old that goes to bed a 8;30 and sleeps all night. I have tried it all with my five year old and still don't know what to do. She gets up and says, " I got you a question. She says it just like that. Then she says I Love You.'' Then we start from square one again.
 
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ukok said:
Oh, Greg, you are just so funny..(.the thought had crossed my mind though...)

Ummm...maybe I missed it but do any of you see your child's lack of compliance as rebellion?

It seems like the major method so far is either ignore it or threaten. Do any of you actually do anything to train your child to obey you? Obviously you cannot make them go to sleep but you can most certainly teach them that when it's bed time they must close their eyes, be quiet, and try to go to sleep.

My sister was having this exact same problem with her three year old. She would put him down for bed at 8 p.m. and he was still awake and running all over the house at 2 a.m. I told her she needed to be firm and tell her son that if he got out of bed, except to use the bathroom, then he would get a spanking and then, if necessary, follow through. Of course she disregarded my advice, all the while all three of my children are sound asleep by 9 p.m., the youngest, who is 20 months old, by 8:15 p.m. Anyway, her son would constantly get up and ask for a drink, or say he couldn't find a sock or whatever he could think of to stay up. Basically, he controlled his own bedtime. Well, one day she decided she had had enough. She had him use the bathroom, gave him a sip of a drink, and read him two stories. Then, she put him in bed with a warning that if he got up he would get a spanking. Of course, he got up. It wasn't anything important. I think it was the "sock" thing again. So, she spanked him and put him back to bed. Well, he got up again. So, she spanked him again. He got the idea. He didn't get up again and it was the first night in a year that my sister and her husband weren't fighting with him until the wee hours of the morning trying to get him to go to sleep. This process continued for about three days and by the fourth day, when it was his bedtime, she would take him to bed, read him two stories and tell him to go to sleep. He hasn't gotten out of bed when he wasn't supposed to since then.

One important thing that I still have to learn is that children often need a period of time to calm down before bed. I play with my kids alot and I used to get frustrated because they were all keyed up at bed time, even though it was my own fault. I had to learn to knock that off about ½ hour before bed time so they could calm down.

God bless
 
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Of course you are quite correct that it is indeed a defience and disregard for the rules laid out by the parent. But ... sometimes even a smack won't do the trick, and i refuse to smack harder to get the desired result.

I have had problems with my son's sleeping habit's from almost day one. I'd really rather not go into the why's and wherefore's, suffice to say, it was not my bad parenting that encouraged this behaviour, in fact it was a necessity for many of my son's earlier years. I'm doing the best that i can do. I hope that sooner (preferably) or later, my son will be able to sleep throughout the night in his own room on a more regular basis than he does at the moment. Believe me though, it isn't because I am "loose" with my parneting tactics.

what do you do when you have spent hours reading stories, reassuring your child, taken them upstairs 10 times already, turned the light off, turned the light on, taken him a drink, his favourite teddy, cuddled him again, warned him, taken him back to bed, warned him, taken him back to bed, warned him, taken him back to bed...spanked him....and he still gets out of bed ?

It is frustrating that he continues to behave in this way. I have talked, I have reasoned, I have coerced, I have bribed, I have made star charts, promised trips out....the list goes on. I am consistant in my parenting methods relating to bedtime, it is my son that is not.

So what else would you reccomend I try, because i think i must have exhausted almost every available option ?
 
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