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Bad Science Journalism: The Underdog Story

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But the line is from the beginning. Literally speaking, the meaining isn't the same.

Was it John Newton who said:

When we've been there ten thousand years; bright, shinning as the sun. We've no less days to sing God's praise, than when we first begun.
 
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Was it John Newton who said:
That is an extra verse taken from:

UNCLE TOM'S CABIN CHAPTER XXXVIII: Harriet Beecher Stowe(1885)

It seems you give yourself some leeway in how you interpret scripture, that you do not see a difference between "at the beginning" and "in the beginning". This appears to be at odds with your definition of literalism.
 
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That is an extra verse taken from:

UNCLE TOM'S CABIN CHAPTER XXXVIII: Harriet Beecher Stowe(1885)

Either that --- or it's the last verse of Amazing Grace.

It seems you give yourself some leeway in how you interpret scripture, that you do not see a difference between "at the beginning" and "in the beginning". This appears to be at odds with your definition of literalism.

As much as you'd like to equate me with Noah Webster, I posted "my definition" of literalism.

I have to believe that even die-hard Bible critics wouldn't agree with this line of reasoning you guys are using here.
 
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More evidence that an IQ in the genius range isn't necessarily correlated with, well, anything, really.

Now, that's hardly fair. My wife administers IQ tests, and she stands by them as a reliable means of guaging certain aspects of intelligence (although not potential for success). However, she also maintains that, because of the difficulty in creating tests that challenge highly intelligent people, no test reliably returns results of more than 150 or 155.

She runs into a lot of people on Internet message boards who claim to have scores higher than this, but, oddly, they never seem to be able to recall which test it was that identified them as supergeniuses...
 
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Because He is the One Who wrote Genesis 1 - (through a human author).
That does not necessarily mean it was written to be taken literally. Do you take Psalms and Jesus' parables literally because they were written?

I'm still waiting for you to prove your assertion that Genesis 1 was intended to be taken literally...
 
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She runs into a lot of people on Internet message boards who claim to have scores higher than this, but, oddly, they never seem to be able to recall which test it was that identified them as supergeniuses...

Mine came from that $1.76 booklet @ the checkout stand. I think it was called Know Your IQ.
 
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Obviously he didn't given the fact that Jesus does not know how the Earth was created. If Jesus interprets Genesis literally he couldn't be the creator.

Back to Square One, eh?
 
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Enjoy the wait.
Why won't you provide your evidence? I don't understand - we (I) have provided evidence and you are then able to view it and comment, why can we not expect you to provide your evidence so we can comment on it?

This is a double standard.
 
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Enjoy the wait.

Is it reasonable to ask you why you believe anything you believe?

Would you like other people to believe as you do? (ie do you think it is "true and accurate"?)

If you can't explain why you believe as you do, why on earth would anyone else want to believe as you do?

If I have never set foot in an experimental airplane, but I tell you I believe I can fly it. Yet I never indicate that it is anything more real than a "belief" I have, would you go flying with me?
 
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Would you like other people to believe as you do? (ie do you think it is "true and accurate"?)

Some time ago, someone once said to me that many people here who are now atheists, once started out believing as I do.

My response was --- "I hope so."
 
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Some time ago, someone once said to me that many people here who are now atheists, once started out believing as I do.

My response was --- "I hope so."
Why? That attitude sounds decidedly un-Christlike.

[bible]Obadiah 1:12[/bible]
 
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Some time ago, someone once said to me that many people here who are now atheists, once started out believing as I do.

My response was --- "I hope so."

Maybe I am missing something but is it because you think that what you believe is prone to driving people away from that belief?

Or is it because you think you don't actually have any real reason to believe as you do?
 
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Has this been confirmed yet?
 
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There’s an entire world covered in what you claim are million year thick sedimentary layers. Yet for some reason the layering today is constantly changing as weathering occurs and transports material from different areas. No strata today is forming of the same type anywhere over a few inches thick......

How much evidence do you need? What you see in the sedimentary layers of the past is not being reproduced as we speak.... Observation supports catastrophic layering and disproves your claims of gradualism....

Just look at the real world for a change instead of burying your proverbial head in theory......
 
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