Apparently you interpret Scripture from a Dispensational point of view and I don't. You asked for an answer to the Scriptures you posted and I gave you one. Sorry if my answers didn't satisfy but I never supposed they would. I am not going to debate this or any other issue with you. Those who are satisfied with a pygmy god will stay satisfied until God gets a hold of them. If that ever happens His sovereignty won't be an issue.You are assuming that God doesn't have emotions. Are you saying that God didn't get angry with Israel, when the passage clearly says so? Are you forgetting that God made man in His image? Wouldn't it follow that emotions are part of that image? Didn't even Jesus get angry at the moneychangers in the Temple?
But this is not the only example in scripture where God changed His mind. Nineveh comes to mind.
Your reference in Maclachi 3:6 only states that God never changes, that is His nature never changes, but that doesn't imply that He cannot change His mind and execute justice or mercy. Many of the promises of God were conditional, as in Deut. 28, blessing or curse. And through Isaiah, God told Hezekiah to set his house in order for he was about to die, but Hezekiah pleaded with the Lord and gained another 15 years.
Ezekiel 36 is a prophesy that hasn't fully occurred yet. While Israel became a nation again, the full realization of the passage will occur when Christ comes again. But you must also realize that had they accepted Jesus as the Messiah the first time, they would not have been scattered. Jesus said concerning John the Baptist, "For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come." Of course this is referring to Malachi where Elijah would prepare the way of the Lord on the Day of Judgment. Again, this is conditional upon Israel's reponse.
But what was Jesus' will for Jerusalem?
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!" - Matthew 23:37
Oh my! Jesus' will was usurped by Israel's unwillingness. Fancy that.
James also says that we have not because we ask amiss, that we might expend it on our own lusts. But James also says to lay hands on the sick and pray for them and they will recover.
Concerning David, as long as he kept close to the Lord, he was blessed. But he later committed some pretty horrible sins and his kingdom suffered greatly from it. Was that God's will?
So if I pray for salvation, will that change come?
Apparently you interpret Scripture from a Dispensational point of view and I don't. You asked for an answer to the Scriptures you posted and I gave you one. Sorry if my answers didn't satisfy but I never supposed they would. I am not going to debate this or any other issue with you. Those who are satisfied with a pygmy god will stay satisfied until God gets a hold of them. If that ever happens His sovereignty won't be an issue.
Williams said:We cannot think of God as a man, an earthly father
Please refrain from debating and read our SoF, only Semper members may debate in this area until it's moved.It's this kind of flippant retort raised on your haughty loft of scholarly indignation that makes it difficult to have a sensible debate. You, in essence, have theologically flipped me off, and I find that rather in bad taste.
Please refrain from debating and read our SoF, only Semper members may debate in this area until it's moved.
I also don't see great scholarship in your part either.
This part was my intent of focus!You thought that I was altogether like you;
Oh mercy dear brother, you clearly misperceived my intent of posting that verse!
I was showing where God accused us of seeing Him as we do humans! I meant to show that we are so inclined at times to judge God and define Him as we do humans and He is so very far and above such definitions and descriptions, thinking and doing far beyond any boundaries that we might consider. Even in reading scripture we tend to decide what we think of as 'fair' but this has little to do with what is actually rendered in the Word!
This part was my intent of focus!
Please forgive any thoughts you have that I was considering you 'wicked'. Not true!!
Blessings on your growth in Him!
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