Are you saved because you believe? Or do you believe because you are saved?

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Eternal = God has no beginning or end if you define it by scripture.
 
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I actually had a whole thread on 'inappropriate contenteia'. My point was ... it isn't useless and it hurts people.
 
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Eternal = God has no beginning or end if you define it by scripture.
Eternity does not equal God. God indeed has no beginning or end, but it is only a mental construction to say that if we live eternally, then (and we find ourselves needing to add) it must be in God's mind, since we obviously do have a beginning.
 
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I actually had a whole thread on 'inappropriate contenteia'. My point was ... it isn't useless and it hurts people.

Huh? What has this to do with that?
 
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Eternity does not equal God. God indeed has no beginning or end, but it is only a mental construction to say that if we live eternally, then (and we find ourselves needing to add) it must be in God's mind, since we obviously do have a beginning.
God cannot change. So the saved are eternally in God's mind as saved.
 
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