yeshuaslavejeff
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Does Yahweh ever lie? Ever change ? Or can He Be Trusted? (rhetorical, of course He never lies, never changes, and is absolutely trustworthy and true)
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Does Yahweh ever lie? Ever change ? Or can He Be Trusted? (rhetorical, of course He never lies, never changes, and is absolutely trustworthy and true)Of course, a lot of things can happen to a book in 2000 years...
This is interesting. Do you know where can we find out more about education in that period? I tried Goggling it, but really didn't find anything on education. Also I assume the "BA" equivalent wouldn't include general education courses, rather just theological topics?That only tells me you know little about how the synagogue system worked in the 2nd temple period. Those “uneducated” fishermen had the equivalent of at least a BA in theology by the time they reached adulthood. The gifted were already recognized by age 5 and removed to yeshivas to learn more extensively. (Like Paul)
yeshuaslavejeff said:Does Yahweh ever lie? Ever change ? Or can He Be Trusted? (rhetorical, of course He never lies, never changes, and is absolutely trustworthy and true)
There may have been folk among the over five hundred witnesses, that Paul mentions in the letter (1 Corinthians 15). Some of these witnesses may have written accounts about the risen Christ, but the early church only focused on what the apostles wrote. Everything else that was written about Jesus would have been ignored and lost.Something that has troubled me is I have never been able to find extra biblical accounts of Jesus resurrection. Why didn’t the 500 he appeared to write testimonies of his resurrection? Even if any of them were illiterate I’m sure a few of them must have been literate. Does anyone have any answers?
All I have heard about this is that their names were recorded but somehow the scrolls were lost to time. The writings of Josephus do speak of him but extra-biblical accounts are exceedingly rare.Something that has troubled me is I have never been able to find extra biblical accounts of Jesus resurrection. Why didn’t the 500 he appeared to write testimonies of his resurrection? Even if any of them were illiterate I’m sure a few of them must have been literate. Does anyone have any answers?
If ? Why ? The end of all things would have been much quicker, probably !If only social media had existed in the first century!
You will have to dig into Jewish writings for that. The Mishnah and moreso the Talmuds detail out what kind of curriculum every Jewish male went thru in the province of Judea and the Gallil.This is interesting. Do you know where can we find out more about education in that period? I tried Goggling it, but really didn't find anything on education. Also I assume the "BA" equivalent wouldn't include general education courses, rather just theological topics?
That only tells me you know little about how the synagogue system worked in the 2nd temple period. Those “uneducated” fishermen had the equivalent of at least a BA in theology by the time they reached adulthood. The gifted were already recognized by age 5 and removed to yeshivas to learn more extensively. (Like Paul)
He is Responsible , as He Says, for Guarding His Word - He Honors His Word Even More than His Own Name.Why do you ask?
It was (and still. Is) expected that every boy at 12 years old could read Hebrew well enough to read his portion of the Torah (and perhaps the Prophets reading as well) in the synagogue.
If I remember correctly, the exceptions were the women. They were trained primarily in the home for keeping the house, raising children and at times, finances and running home businesses, but not the same level of education. The parents were not required to teach them at the same level of education.It was (and still. Is) expected that every boy at 12 years old could read Hebrew well enough to read his portion of the Torah (and perhaps the Prophets reading as well) in the synagogue.
Something that has troubled me is I have never been able to find extra biblical accounts of Jesus resurrection. Why didn’t the 500 he appeared to write testimonies of his resurrection? Even if any of them were illiterate I’m sure a few of them must have been literate. Does anyone have any answers?
Subject to testing/verification, I'm pretty sure (from memory only though, long ago),Additionally, would possessing such supposedly heretical writings , which they surely would have been considered at the time, have been dangerous for the writer and the one possessing the writing?
The latter point would be the most important one imho in regards to the lack of writings seen today, not to mention the transmission over the centuries. Also, since everything was community based, I’d imagine it would be difficult to pass in the writings, especially since so much was conveyed in the synagogues.It also occurs to me that even if every 12 year old was literate as Dave -W assures us was the case
, how likely would it be that every one of the 500 had the means to record what they had witnessed? Were writing utensils and the medium for writing upon abundant and commonly possessed or were such things rare and only normally available to the scribes? Additionally, would possessing such supposedly heretical writings , which they surely would have been considered at the time, have been dangerous for the writer and the one possessing the writing?
This is a good movie to watch and a good book to read that may help with what you are wrestling with. Lee did a ton of research.Thank you for your reply. Both actually but preferably first hand accounts. I know that the New Testament authors along with the The Acts of the Apostles are all historically reliable sources but I’ve just been wrestling with the fact as to why the first hand accounts of the 500 that Jesus appeared to never wrote any testimonies or at least none that I know of.
Something that has troubled me is I have never been able to find extra biblical accounts of Jesus resurrection. Why didn’t the 500 he appeared to write testimonies of his resurrection? Even if any of them were illiterate I’m sure a few of them must have been literate. Does anyone have any answers?
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