Are Skinny Jeans / Leggings / Tight Fitting Pants Modest?

fat wee robin said:

Ultimately is dépends on the Aim you have when you wear clothes .

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What depends on this?
I don´t know what aim another person has in wearing what they wear - so I can´t react to it.

Jeans origiannlay French, De Nimes 'denim) became pratical hard wearing clothing for working men in America ,then for lots of people .

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Yes. So what?

It has only been in the last years that

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It´s been about 50years that jeans have become fashionable outside the original "hard working men" target group.
And back in our hippie days (1960s/70s) we had blue jeans that we couldn´t manage to put on unless we put them in water and then let them shrink on the body.

women have been pushed to wear

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How exactly have they beeen "pushed"?

these so skinny they are mean to be attention seeking ,not practical ,as they are so tight underneath they 'strangle ' the body .

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Most fashion items can be said to be meant to seek attention and aren´t practical. So?

Ianh said:

I have heard the comments guys make about a good looking girl in a bikini. What do u think God would think of a bikini? If it makes some men lust then its wrong. Period.

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Where I come from men are expected to be able to handle what they perceive as temptation. Period.

Ianh said:

I have heard the comments guys make about a good looking girl in a bikini.

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I have heard the comments guys on construction sites make about female coworkers in loose fitting overalls. Maybe, just maybe, the man and how they think is the issue

faroukfarouk said:

My wife wears jeans nearly all the time. I guess for me this is more or less the end of the matter.

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Lol, that's the right attitude to have. Probably like 90% of the people I see on the weekends are wearing jeans.

It's weird this thread is active again!

Ianh said:

I've been a guy for 54 years. My while life i have seen and heard how males look and talk in a de-meaning sexist way about an attractive girl wearing tight clothing. If girls dress in way that makes guys talk and lust then its wrong. Like i said i have heard how guys speak about girls when they can see the shape of her body. They say lewd, disgusting things about what they'd like to do to her. U cannot get away frm this. To say its up to the guy not to look is CRAZY. Simply, if u line up a row of sexy girls in skin tight clothing, and a row of girls in non sexy non form fitting clothing, which group do u think God would approve of? I rest my case. Its a problem for me when i see women and girls dressed like that, i have spoken to other males at our church, in confidence, and they have admitted that its a problem for them. Its not even debatable.

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Are you really 54? You don't write like someone that age.

I was going to make a pithy comment. But I fear it would lead some here into irreverence or lust.

I'm with Quatona. A man needs to control his own passions. It is not the job of the world to shield him from all temptations.

Ianh said:

I've been a guy for 54 years. My while life i have seen and heard how males look and talk in a de-meaning sexist way about an attractive girl wearing tight clothing. If girls dress in way that makes guys talk and lust then its wrong.

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Oh please. I've talked in a lustful and demeaning way about a guy wearing a tux before. It doesn't matter how modest you dress. Most people are sexually attracted to other human beings, and they are going to experience that attraction on a regular basis. That's not his fault.

Ianh said:

Like i said i have heard how guys speak about girls when they can see the shape of her body.

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Yeah, but I would never blame a man or woman for the things I think or say to my friends about their body. I'm the one thinking and saying the things.

fat wee robin said:

Well maybe they should go to live in Islamic countries . Whereas one extreme is the very immodest dressing of some ,you are the other ,you see sex in everything .Take the log out ,or avoid swimming .

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Logs float don't they?

Ianh said:

They didnt. U dont understand. If u showed people in the 1800 s a pic of a girl in a bikini and said this is what girls will wear they'd be shocked.

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Oh, they'd be shocked alright. Most of them would say "Wow, you must be rich to have clothing that you own specifically for swimming! We all bathe naked in the creek!"

Ianh said:

They say lewd, disgusting things about what they'd like to do to her. U cannot get away frm this. To say its up to the guy not to look is CRAZY.

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Well, first of all, looking is fine. Just don't be a creep. As for not going beyond that and harassing people, that's called being an adult and a good citizen.

Ianh said:

Its a problem for me when i see women and girls dressed like that

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I'm sorry to hear that. You could try working from home and leaving the house as little as possible until you get help. There are even online grocery services now. They deliver. But maybe have someone else answer the door in case a girl delivers the food and her uniform pants are too form-fitting for you to handle.

I have to say, I'm a little jealous of how much money you must save on TV, movies, and magazines.

I have "lusted" after women wearing non-sexy business clothing. It is women that make me lust, not clothing-as-such.

I could go live in a monastery somewhere, where there are no women, but I would lust for women in my imagination even then.

Or I can simply accept that I am a normal straight male, and lust as much as my nature inclines me to without acting in a disrespectful way towards women. That strikes me as the optimal solution.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Normal sexual interest and attraction is not sinful lust. Since God designed us that way, how can it be?

*Achoo*

I'm sneezing because of the dust flying off this thread, which is so old that the 16-year-old OP is now 18 (and hasn't logged back onto CF for more than a year), and the skinny jeans trend that had been hot back then is now cooling. What's currently back into style are flares (a descendant of the bell bottoms popular decades ago), color blocking, and patchwork. That sort of emphasizes an important point, though. Fashion has never been stationary; it's perpetually transforming - recycling old trends, inventing new ones, meshing the two together, so forth and so on. Back in the 60s the mini skirt was popularized. Back in the early 2010s the maxi skirt became popular, not due to newfound modesty, but because of the comfort and the flattering silhouette. Attitudes and perceptions about what constitutes modesty have also evolved, and are dependent hugely upon time and place. Up until 1937 it was illegal for men to go topless on the beaches of Atlantic City, and considered to be socially uncouth; today it's normative, and I've seen photos of bare chested males on this forum. One of the schools I attended is over 125 years old, and has a collection of the uniforms from over time. It used to be considered suggestive and undignified to have your ankles showing. Then it was the calves, and then the knees. Regardless of the hem length, there were boys chasing after the girls.

What has remained a constant is men lusting after women. Women have also lusted after men, and both genders have lusted after the same sex, but what has dominated laws and cultural norms throughout history has been how men react to women. I think it's far past time for that to stop. We all need to take responsibility for ourselves. This means dressing in a manner that is appropriate for the context (business attire for a business meeting where it's expected, beach attire at the beach, etc), but also taking control over our own reactions. If someone feels distressed by his reaction to a woman in skinny jeans, tight pants, or a bikini, then he needs to self-correct. Learn to take the reigns over his own thoughts and emotions, averting his eyes and his focus, instead of expecting her to modify her attire for his lack of will.

Edit to add: In this post there's a Life Magazine article from the 1930s about the newfangled trend of men going topless at the beach.

Stanfordella said:

I'm sneezing because of the dust flying off this thread, which is so old that the 16-year-old OP is now 18 (and hasn't logged back onto CF for more than a year), and the skinny jeans trend that had been hot back then is now cooling. What's currently back into style are flares (a descendant of the bell bottoms popular decades ago)

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Oops, no one told me...I'm still buying the exact same skinny jeans that I was wearing when this thread was started.

Cearbhall said:

Oops, no one told me...I'm still buying the exact same skinny jeans that I was wearing when this thread was started.

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Ha.

The silver lining is that if you like skinny jeans and want to buy more, you can now find them on sale. My mom texted me from the Brass Plum section ("juniors" clothing) of Nordstrom the other day asking if I still like them, and if she should buy a few pairs for me because they were on the clearance rack, and she was excited to find them in my size (most brands don't make it). I said YES please. Neither of us are fond of the "destroyed" or "deconstructed" (ripped) or patched look, or the weird above-ankle style, or the flares (not for reasons of modesty or anything, but just style preferences). I haven't found skinnies at that many popular stores lately. Delia's Clothing still has some, though.

anewman1993 said:

We arn't talking about how nonchristians should behave, but Christians, based on the bible.

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My youngest daughter wears leggings but she wears them with attractive tunic shirts. So if you wear a shirt, jacket, etc. that covers you to say mid thigh you are not being immodest imo.
http://glamradar.com/how-to-wear-a-tunic-this-autumn/

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Well 4 inches of unshaven ankle is undignified and even worse with bright shiny red lipstick!


Oh and there are Levis that are far worse than skinny jeans!

We'll all be naked to each other in the kingdom of heaven, I don't think there's a JC Penny or Banana Republic up there.

keith99 said:

Well 4 inches of unshaven ankle is undignified and even worse with bright shiny red lipstick!

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Was in high school when the mini skirt fashion hit my small town about 5-6 years after it hit larger cities. As styles were changing the school board was successfully petitioned to relax the dress codes so that students could wear them. One English teacher in her mid to late 50s wore a mini and she had never in her life shaved her legs above the knees. Furry. And funny since her name was Mrs Schick.

Ella: FYI: Maxi skirts and flairs were around back then as well. They were all going on at the same time. Ever seen elephant bells or stove pipes?

Ianh said:

If girls dress in way that makes guys talk and lust then its wrong. Like i said i have heard how guys speak about girls when they can see the shape of her body. They say lewd, disgusting things about what they'd like to do to her. U cannot get away frm this. To say its up to the guy not to look is CRAZY. Simply, if u line up a row of sexy girls in skin tight clothing, and a row of girls in non sexy non form fitting clothing, which group do u think God would approve of? I rest my case. Its a problem for me when i see women and girls dressed like that, i have spoken to other males at our church, in confidence, and they have admitted that its a problem for them. Its not even debatable.

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Other people are never responsible for your choice of comments nor for your imagination.

People *should be* able to control themselves no matter what others wear. There are those who will be lecherous no matter what, though.

That being said, certain clothing choices are perceived certain ways, so it's wise to be aware of that. For instance, wear a suit to a job interview, not a mini-skirt with over-the-knee boots. Dressing appropriately for the occasion is a matter of common sense.