Are Bronies Immoral? (input appreciated!)

DiscipleHeLovesToo · Aug 28, 2016

i used to really enjoy listening to 70s era rock; often the lyrics would bother me though, and so i gave it up and shifted to gospel (which can also have terrible lyrics btw ). a few years ago i was going through a tough trial (for me anyway) and suddenly became interested in my old favorite rock bands again as a way to calm my mind and break the worry cycle; as i listen now, i make up Godly lyrics and sing them instead of the ungodly original lyrics. i think God led me to give up rock, and then gave it back to me when i was better able to deal with the ungodly aspects of it...

sunshine456 · Aug 28, 2016

If it is affiliated with the LBGT community any cohesive connections should be avoidance rather than acceptance. Technically MLP, jem, strawberry shortcake were a true to heart girls shows back in the day, where as gi joe, transformers, thundercats were presented primarily as so called boys shows. Our approach to Christianity is one of representation and presentation via examples of purity and avoiding those principles NOT of JESUS CHRIST.

Effeminate is by it's nature a definition of ones persona represented by female gender character traits as described.......

Simple Definition of effeminate: having or showing qualities that are considered more suited to women than to men : not manly

1 Corinthians 6:9King James Version (KJV)
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

This explains it to the key. Do not be fooled, do not be deceived....many false teachers are under disguise and will lead you astray if you hearken not to wisdom. Be steadfast in true faith and resolute in your belief in JESUS CHRIST...be devoted to righteousness and not the principles of wickedness and schemes of the devil; whom is roaring around us like a lion; seeking whom it can devour.

In essence and reality....bronies-NOOOO!! Not appropriate for a man to affiliate themselves with that model of effeminacy.

Praise be to GOD the heavenly father and his son lord JESUS CHRIST forever>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

protorayish · Aug 28, 2016

Michael Collum said:
Jesus did teach us to be like little children, so having childlike interests is not bad. I suppose it might help to consider what you want out of life, and if the time devoted to being childlike precludes that from happening. If that is the case, time management might be required to find the right balance.

I certainly agree with that. Anything that interferes with that which is actually important needs to be reevaluated.

protorayish · Aug 28, 2016

DiscipleHeLovesToo said:
i used to really enjoy listening to 70s era rock; often the lyrics would bother me though, and so i gave it up and shifted to gospel (which can also have terrible lyrics btw ). a few years ago i was going through a tough trial (for me anyway) and suddenly became interested in my old favorite rock bands again as a way to calm my mind and break the worry cycle; as i listen now, i make up Godly lyrics and sing them instead of the ungodly original lyrics. i think God led me to give up rock, and then gave it back to me when i was better able to deal with the ungodly aspects of it...

Very interesting, thank you for sharing your experience!

protorayish · Aug 28, 2016

sunshine456 said:
If it is affiliated with the LBGT community any cohesive connections should be avoidance rather than acceptance. Technically MLP, jem, strawberry shortcake were a true to heart girls shows back in the day, where as gi joe, transformers, thundercats were presented primarily as so called boys shows. Our approach to Christianity is one of representation and presentation via examples of purity and avoiding those principles NOT of JESUS CHRIST.

Effeminate is by it's nature a definition of ones persona represented by female gender character traits as described.......

Simple Definition of effeminate: having or showing qualities that are considered more suited to women than to men : not manly

1 Corinthians 6:9King James Version (KJV)
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

This explains it to the key. Do not be fooled, do not be deceived....many false teachers are under disguise and will lead you astray if you hearken not to wisdom. Be steadfast in true faith and resolute in your belief in JESUS CHRIST...be devoted to righteousness and not the principles of wickedness and schemes of the devil; whom is roaring around us like a lion; seeking whom it can devour.

In essence and reality....bronies-NOOOO!! Not appropriate for a man to affiliate themselves with that model of effeminacy.

Praise be to GOD the heavenly father and his son lord JESUS CHRIST forever>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thank you for your input! I think that to say it is affiliated with the LGBT community is not am accurate statement since last I checked less than 4% of bronies were gay, but some of my freinds that are bronies have indeed complained that it seems the LGBT have been slowly moving into the fandom.

As for effeminacy, I will certainly research this some more. I've always heard that μαλακός (translated in KJV as effeminate), refered to
a) not associating as, or rebelling against the sex you were born
Or b) the passive partner in homosexual activity. I also figured based on other verses that it could apply to not being a man as the Bible calls men to be (a spiritual leader in the community and in the household)
These articles show what I've generally been taught this could mean
https://christianstudies.wordpress.com/2011/06/04/does-the-greek-word-malakos-refer-to-homosexual-acts/
http://www.gotquestions.org/effeminate-men-masculine-women.html

I have asked a youth minister if he considered bronies effeminate and he said that they were not, but I suppose it would be foolish to put to much into his opinion.

Thank you again for your input. I hope you see that I genuinely do want to honor God with all that I do.

protorayish · Aug 28, 2016

@sunshine456
I'm not trying to argue here, but this is a sincere question. Do you believe that it is wrong for a Christian man to enjoy things like dancing, sewing, cooking, or other things that are for women in our society?

frettr00 · Aug 28, 2016

It's only a sin if you're sexually attracted to the ponies and touch to them. It's harmless otherwise.

Catherineanne · Aug 28, 2016

protorayish said:
THE FOLLOWING WAS ORIGINALLY POSTED IN 'ETHICS AND MORALITY,' but I have moved it here because I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS!

I've been wondering this question for a long time now and would love to hear what everyone else has to say on the topic. A brony is generally defined as a young adult or adult male that is a fan of the tv show My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. For more info, see this link: http://whatisabrony.com/
FEEL FREE TO SKIP ALL THE BELOW TEXT AND JUST GIVE YOUR ANSWER IF YOU WANT

A little under a year ago, I was exposed to this show and fandom and soon became a huge fan myself. I met several very good friends through a brony meet-up club at my college, of which some even claim to be Christians. While I was very comfortable and open about my hobby at first, I soon began to see how hated the community was, and how "weird" it was perceived (which is understandable and doesn't bother me so long as God approves). Considering that I have always had serious struggles with being overly legalistic, this really made me question if this in any way was morally wrong/sinful. After a few months, I eventually became so torn on the subject that I decided to abandon MLP altogether. This was VERY difficult for me since I genuinely loved the show and the incredibly strong friendships I had made in the fandom, but I didn't want to be unknowingly rebelling against God somehow, so I was more than willing to make this sacrifice. Since I just moved back onto campus, I recently met up with some of those old friends, most of whom i had not seen in the over 3 months since I left the fandom. Seeing them again, and once again talking about what was going on in the show and fandom really has made me think about this question that I've been praying on for months now. I want to honor God first and foremost, but I fail to see why enjoying an innocent show would be sinful just because of its intended demographic. I personally don't think I would ever go back to embracing the brony label as if that is my identity, but I wonder if just enjoying the show is wrong for a young adult male. THANK YOU FOR ANY INPUT YOU HAVE TO OFFER (but please be respectful)!

PS: I now that being obsessed and idolizing anything is sinful. This question assumes that the individual is in no way idolizing MLP or making the brony label their identity before a follower of Christ.

No, it is neither immoral nor sinful. Sounds perfectly harmless to me.

Catherineanne · Aug 28, 2016

protorayish said:
I'm not trying to argue here, but this is a sincere question. Do you believe that it is wrong for a Christian man to enjoy things like dancing, sewing, cooking, or other things that are for women in our society?

No.

protorayish · Aug 28, 2016

Catherineanne said:
No, it is neither...

Thank you for your contribution!

protorayish · Aug 28, 2016

alucardr said:
It's only a sin if you're sexually attracted to the ponies and touch to them. It's harmless otherwise.

Thank you for your contribution! I think we can all agree that it is certainly sinful if it is sexual!

CrystalDragon · Aug 28, 2016

Being a fan myself, there's nothing wrong with it. Things that are okay for kids to watch can have good plot and characters, which is an important part to any story. It doesn't mean things are "babyish". I really feel annoyed when people have that view, because they generally think "If it doesn't have sweating/adult themes it's too childish for adults" or "animation/comics/whatever is only for kids". Animation is a medium, not a genre, and there's such a thing is being okay for EVERYONE to watch.

protorayish · Aug 28, 2016

CrystalDragon said:
Being a fan myself, there's nothing wrong with it. Things that are okay for kids to watch can have good plot and characters, which is an important part to any story. It doesn't mean things are "babyish". I really feel annoyed when people have that view, because they generally think "If it doesn't have sweating/adult themes it's too childish for adults" or "animation/comics/whatever is only for kids". Animation is a medium, not a genre, and there's such a thing is being okay for EVERYONE to watch.

Thank you for your perspective and response!

CrystalDragon · Aug 28, 2016

protorayish said:
Thank you for your perspective and response!

No prob!

Also, I meant to put "swearing", not "sweating", dumb mistype.

protorayish · Aug 28, 2016

CrystalDragon said:
No prob!

Also, I meant to put "swearing", not "sweating", dumb mistype.

Lol. I was a little confused about what you meant there!

CrystalDragon · Aug 28, 2016

protorayish said:
Lol. I was a little confused about what you meant there!

I blame the fact that the r and t are right next to each other and I'm typing on a phone.

protorayish · Aug 28, 2016

CrystalDragon said:
I blame the fact that the r and t are right next to each other and I'm typing on a phone.

I hear you! Phone typing'll get ya (especially that swiping stuff)

protorayish · Aug 28, 2016

I'd just like to say THANK YOU to everybody who has contributed thus far! I've been wondering the 'Christian' view on this for many months now and love to hear any and all of your opinions.

If you are reading this and have anything at all to say, please feel free to continue contributing!

Greg J. · Aug 28, 2016

protorayish said:
I have always had serious struggles with being overly legalistic

Paul uses "yoke of slavery" in the following passage to refer to trying to be right with God by keeping his commands, and Paul uses "circumcision" as an example of one of the commands. One thing he mentions elsewhere, but not here, is that it is impossible to "obey the whole law" to be right with God.

It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. (Galatians 5:1-4, 1984 NIV)

We are right with God because of Jesus' death. If you believe in Jesus (and you clearly seem to be trying to live to please him), everything you do that might be a sin is already forgiven (i.e., you are saved). Jesus didn't die so we could put God's Old Testament Law behind us and come under the commands in the New Testament. We are freed from having to keep any commands or rules to be right with God.

But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code. (Romans 7:6, 1984 NIV) (Also see Romans chapter 8.)

However, Jesus is still Lord and God, and still loves you So we make it our goal to please him ... (2 Corinthians 5:9a, 1984 NIV) Just don't "live according to the sinful nature" (from Romans 8:5), which is not too hard (Matthew 11:28-30) if you make this a habit:

Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the sinful nature. (Romans 13:14, 1984 NIV)

College is a time when some people's faith is tested severely. Try to hang out with friends who are also trying to live pleasingly to Jesus, and the above will be easier, and remember God loves you and accepts you even if you sin.

protorayish · Aug 28, 2016

Greg J. said:
Paul uses "yoke of slavery" in the following passage to refer to trying to be right with God by keeping his commands, and Paul uses "circumcision" as an example of one of the commands. One thing he mentions elsewhere, but not here, is that it is impossible to "obey the whole law" to be right with God.

It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. (Galatians 5:1-4, 1984 NIV)

We are right with God because of Jesus' death. If you believe in Jesus (and you clearly seem to be trying to live to please him), everything you do that might be a sin is already forgiven (i.e., you are saved). Jesus didn't die so we could put God's Old Testament Law behind us and come under the commands in the New Testament. We are freed from having to keep any commands or rules to be right with God.

But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code. (Romans 7:6, 1984 NIV) (Also see Romans chapter 8.)

However, Jesus is still Lord and God, and still loves you So we make it our goal to please him ... (2 Corinthians 5:9a, 1984 NIV) Just don't "live according to the sinful nature" (from Romans 8:5), which is not too hard (Matthew 11:28-30) if you make this a habit:

Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the sinful nature. (Romans 13:14, 1984 NIV)

College is a time when some people's faith is tested severely. Try to hang out with friends who are also trying to live pleasingly to Jesus, and the above will be easier, and remember God loves you and accepts you even if you sin.

Wow, thank you very much for this! Sometimes I get so carried away with little things and forget some of the basic and fundamental truths we live by! God bless you!

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