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Apocrypha is very important today(it was meant to be "rediscovered" in these times and some contain instructions for the end times[2 esdras primarily])
primarily 2 Esdras and The Book of Enoch
both fill in many holes that scripture purposely leaves
do a search for both on wikipedia and you will find that these were books that were cited as scripture by the ECF and the jews before Jesus arrived
I am also found of The Epistle of the Apostles but I haven't done an in depth study of it
I am trying to decide on if I want a apocrypha in my Bible. What is the apocrypha useful for as I have only read bits and pieces about online? From what I can gather its a bunch of biblical folk tales. This I could be mistaken but I do wish to know if it is useful or not in deepening my faith?
Right now I am currently leaning Calvinist with a Anglican/Orthodox breeze.
The majority of Christianity accepts 1 and 2 Maccabees, Sirach, Wisdom, Baruch, Tobit, and Judith as part of the Old Testament canon. They are not "apocrypha", because that word refers to non-canonical writings. They are scripture.
And that is the very reason that you want them in your Bible, because they ARE scripture.
Read this article: LINK
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The majority of Christianity accepts 1 and 2 Maccabees, Sirach, Wisdom, Baruch, Tobit, and Judith as part of the Old Testament canon. They are not "apocrypha", because that word refers to non-canonical writings. They are scripture.
And that is the very reason that you want them in your Bible, because they ARE scripture.
Read this article: LINK
Try reading this article too: LINK
I would suggest that you do not fall into Martin Luther's error. He too was concerned with what the Rabbis considered to be canonical. The problem with that is that we do not follow the Rabbis: We follow the Apostles. It is the Apostles who have the Christ-given authority to teach, not the Rabbis.Interesting how the Jewish sects did not agree even on a OT cannon! Scripture still is my only tradition but it is interesting to see a more complete picture of it!
I would suggest that you do not fall into Martin Luther's error. He too was concerned with what the Rabbis considered to be canonical. The problem with that is that we do not follow the Rabbis: We follow the Apostles. It is the Apostles who have the Christ-given authority to teach, not the Rabbis.
We are "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church", not "One Holy Catholic and Pharisaical Church"
We are "One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church", not "One Holy Catholic and Pharisaical Church"
Yes,
And not all Jews, ancient and modern, reject these books.The Ethiopian Jews still accept them as Scriptures (cf. Encyclopedia Judaica, vol. 6, p. 1147). And those who translated the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek (The Septuagint, which Christ and the Holy Apostles rely on more than the Hebrew version) thought it was! Jews never had a Bible Canon, even in Jesus time there was disagreement on what was "Scriptures". Only in a council of Jarmina (90AD) did some Jews officially declare there canon, and even then it was not blinding to the entire Jewish community, as the Ethiopian Jews decided to keep the deuterocanonical books in there canon, even to this day. It is interesting Protestants main argument is that "Jews didn't accept them". First, not every Jews, ancient and modern, reject them. Second, we do not follow what some Christ-hated Jews said. There have no authority in the Church. The question to most Protestants is not "Why do you listen to Jews instead of Christ' Church for the Canon of Scriptures?" but "Why do you listen to some Jewish sects while ignoring other Jewish sects that did and still accept the deuterocanonical books?".
Jacksladder you should study these books (Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Sairch, Epistle of Jeremiah, Baruch, 1-3 Maccabees, 1 Esdras, additions to Esther, Daniel, and Psalms [Psalm 151], and Prayer of Manasseh ) . Why? For 1500 years they was accepted by Christians. In fact, even Renowed Protestant Scholars and Theologians admits this! Read J.N.D Kelly "Early Christian Doctrines" (pg. 53), Brenton (The Septuagint with Apocrypha, pg 1), Thomas C. Oden (Ancient Christian Commentary). The Majority of Christians today accept them as Scriptures (Catholics [Latin/East), Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Ethiopian Orthodox, and some Protestants accept them as well).
We Orthodox accept 3 Maccbess (4 Maccbess is accepted by the Gregorian Orthodox Church), 1 Esdras (3 Esdras in the Vulgate), 2 Esdras (4 Esdras in the Vulgate, accepted by the Russian Orthodox Church), Psalm 151, and Prayer of Manasseh. These books and additions are not accepted by the Roman Catholic Church.
All the Ancient Apostolic Churches accept Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Sairch, Epistle of Jeremiah, Baruch, 1-2 Maccabees, and additions to Esther, Daniel as Scriptures. All the Ancient Apostolic Churches of the East accept 1 Esdras, 3 Maccabess, Prayer of Manesseh, Psalms 151 as Canonical Scriptures.
In IC.XC,
Ramon.
O.k. you guys convinced me. I just ordered a Good News Bible with the Apocrypha in it.
Good News Translation Bible with Deuterocanonicals/ Apocrypha and Imprimatur.
I guess the Good News Translation is used by both Protestans and Catholics.
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