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djns9437 · Jan 15, 2006

GraceInHim said:
he was talking to the Pharisees

Whats your point?

GraceInHim · Jan 15, 2006

"you will know the truth and the truth will set you free.." "I talk about what my father has shown me, and all you do is trying to kill me.. if God really were your father.. you would believe in me.. I honor my father and you dishonor me.. Abraham rejoiced the day I would come.. the one who honors me is my father, the one who you say is your father, but yet you do not believe me.. I am telling you the truth.. before Abraham was born.,I AM" stoning starting and Jesus disappeared..

peace to all

GraceInHim · Jan 15, 2006

djns9437 said:
Whats your point?

they did not listen to him.. they were not saved

djns9437 · Jan 15, 2006

GraceInHim said:
"I say this only that you will be saved" .. "and the Father who sent me on my behalf""you do not know him, for you have never seen him.. you study the scriptures, because within them you think you will find eternal life.. but if you knew my father you would of known me.. Moses spoke of me and could not wait to see this day" "Yet you do not know, you are blinded fools"

the end until tonight

Blessed are you Simon ,for flesh and blood have not revealed this to you,but my Father,The foundation of the Catholic Church.

djns9437 · Jan 15, 2006

GraceInHim said:
one more.. "Your ancestors ate manna that came down from heaven... I AM THE BREAD OF LIFE.. " "you must eat my flesh and drink my blood"...then he heard his disciples them grumbling .."do you feel uncomfortable of this when I say this, that you must eat my flesh and drink my blood"? "This is the words I have spoken to you bring God's life bringing spirit to you" "This is the very reason I told you .. no one can make you come to me unless the Father sends you"

if you look at a coriander seed (which the manna tasted like) under a lens it has stripes on it.. tini little seed.

good night

Good night.

djns9437 · Jan 15, 2006

GraceInHim said:
they did not listen to him.. they were not saved

Oh I get it Know,thank you.

djns9437 · Jan 15, 2006

GraceInHim said:
"you will know the truth and the truth will set you free.." "I talk about what my father has shown me, and all you do is trying to kill me.. if God really were your father.. you would believe in me.. I honor my father and you dishonor me.. Abraham rejoiced the day I would come.. the one who honors me is my father, the one who you say is your father, but yet you do not believe me.. I am telling you the truth.. before Abraham was born.,I AM" stoning starting and Jesus disappeared..

peace to all

Amen.

mutzrein · Jan 15, 2006

frusteratedblonde said:
So as a Baptised Believing Christian why do I sin? Is it really possible to never sin again?
I love Jesus and I repent, its not like I wake up and plan to sin, it happens and I ask forgiveness, does this cycle ever end?

There will always (until Jesus returns) be a wrestle between the flesh and the Spirit. Scripture says that they are at war with each other.

I can't pretend to be any different to you or any other 'saint' but at Paul says in Galatians, "walk in the spirit and we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh."

Now this is not something that we can attain by following a code of conduct. It can only come as we continue a walk of faith with Him who has called us by His grace. The Spirit gives life and the flesh counts for nothing.

Ed

depthdeception · Jan 15, 2006

frusteratedblonde said:
So as a Baptised Believing Christian why do I sin? Is it really possible to never sin again?
I love Jesus and I repent, its not like I wake up and plan to sin, it happens and I ask forgiveness, does this cycle ever end?

It depends how you define sin. If you define sin in a legalistic sense (i.e., according to rules, regulations), then yes, it is impossible not to sin. After all, the object of our focus will always be that which pursue. So if one is focused on not violating specific rules and regulations, one will invariably do exactly that which one does not want to.

However, if sin is properly and biblically defined as relational dysfunction with God, then it is not only possible, but actually necessary that one no longer sin. Sin is nothing more than that which separates one from relationship with God. In other words, it ultimately has very little to do with what you do and is infinitely about who you are. THerefore, if you desire God and seek God with all you heart, you will live without sin, for it is impossible to have relationship with God (holiness) and yet be separated from relationship with God (sin). THerefore, holiness must never be qualified negatively (without sin), for the negative qualification will forever bind the person to that which qualifies the object of desire. So, a change in definition is required. HOliness is not sinless-ness, but is rather complete love for God. As love qualifies one's relationship with GOd (and not sin), there is nothing to detract from this relationship and one is enabled to live in complete freedom and holiness with Christ, the life for which all believers are recreated.

Hope this helps.

linssue55 · Jan 15, 2006

frusteratedblonde said:
So as a Baptised Believing Christian why do I sin? Is it really possible to never sin again?
I love Jesus and I repent, its not like I wake up and plan to sin, it happens and I ask forgiveness, does this cycle ever end?

We ALL sin........It is possible to NOT sin again?, with "MAXIMUM" bible doctrine resident in the soul, sinning becomes greatly reduced. Don't be so hard on yourself, for when you worry about sinning, the "Worry" is a sin in itself.

LEARN, and APPLY doctrine everyday, grow in the the grace and the knowledge of the Lord, KNOW His words, use them, make them your frame of reference, Epi-gnosis doctrine,.........with this better understanding, you can become much better at not sinning. We ALL start off babies in Christ.....TIME, with maximum doctrine in our souls (understanding--knowledge), is the only thing that curbs our sinning.

When you do sin use......1 John 1:9, this cleanses us after we sin/sins,....keep short accounts of your sins, and rebound, 1 John 1:9......this put's us back into fellowship, and we are then again filled with the Holy Spirit. For if we do not use 1 John 1:9,...... all are dead works when we are carnal. Stay in fellowship, this is the armor that wards off sins, for then it is God the Holy Spirit doing the WORK, through us.

Full_Moon · Jan 15, 2006

depthdeception said:
It depends how you define sin. If you define sin in a legalistic sense (i.e., according to rules, regulations), then yes, it is impossible not to sin. After all, the object of our focus will always be that which pursue. So if one is focused on not violating specific rules and regulations, one will invariably do exactly that which one does not want to.

However, if sin is properly and biblically defined as relational dysfunction with God, then it is not only possible, but actually necessary that one no longer sin. Sin is nothing more than that which separates one from relationship with God. In other words, it ultimately has very little to do with what you do and is infinitely about who you are. THerefore, if you desire God and seek God with all you heart, you will live without sin, for it is impossible to have relationship with God (holiness) and yet be separated from relationship with God (sin). THerefore, holiness must never be qualified negatively (without sin), for the negative qualification will forever bind the person to that which qualifies the object of desire. So, a change in definition is required. HOliness is not sinless-ness, but is rather complete love for God. As love qualifies one's relationship with GOd (and not sin), there is nothing to detract from this relationship and one is enabled to live in complete freedom and holiness with Christ, the life for which all believers are recreated.

Hope this helps.

Hey buddy, got to say something here for you and others.

It was quoted earlier "If we say we have no sin we decieve ourselves and the truth is not in us"
Biblically sin is sin, and yes it seperates us from God. Yes you must be without sin to be with God. There is no excuse, nor any way around it. Therefore you, as a sinner, must die (to sin). Only if you die, will you be resurrected. But if you say you have no sin, then you are righteous already and have no need for Christ or salvation, because you are already perfect.

There is only one biblical definition of sin that I am aware of.

The Lord says "The guilty will not go unpunished" and "MY JUSTICE SHALL NOT SUFFER"

GraceInHim · Jan 15, 2006

Romans 16:4

4They risked their lives for me. Not only I but all the churches of the Gentiles are grateful to them

GraceInHim · Jan 15, 2006

Leviticus 19:34
The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

GraceInHim · Jan 15, 2006

Psalm

9 for zeal for your house consumes me,
and the insults of those who insult you fall on me.
139 My zeal wears me out,
for my enemies ignore your words.

Galations

18It is fine to be zealous, provided the purpose is good, and to be so always and not just when I am with you.

GraceInHim · Jan 15, 2006

3 As for the saints who are in the land,
they are the glorious ones in whom is all my delight

10Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves

13By all this we are encouraged. In addition to our own encouragement, we were especially delighted to see how happy Titus was, because his spirit has been refreshed by all of you. 14I had boasted to him about you, and you have not embarrassed me. But just as everything we said to you was true, so our boasting about you to Titus has proved to be true as well. 15And his affection for you is all the greater when he remembers that you were all obedient, receiving him with fear and trembling. 16I am glad I can have complete confidence in you.

We loved you so much that we were delighted to share with you not only the gospel of God but our lives as well, because you had become so dear to us.

frusteratedblonde · Jan 15, 2006

GraceInHim said:
repent means repent.. he said to stop sinning.. we may fall and get up.. but if we are with him.. he will pick us right back up -- immediately.. he loves us too much.. because we love him more then ourselves on earth.

Good way to put it

frusteratedblonde · Jan 15, 2006

Wow! Thanks for all the input, it has given me a lot to ponder! God Bless.

GraceInHim · Jan 15, 2006

frusteratedblonde said:
Wow! Thanks for all the input, it has given me a lot to ponder! God Bless.

hope you do not mind.. . I did some bible study last night.. got funny at times.. but a lot of onlookers.. God Bless you also

IgnatiusOfAntioch · Jan 15, 2006

frusteratedblonde said:
So as a Baptised Believing Christian why do I sin? Is it really possible to never sin again?
I love Jesus and I repent, its not like I wake up and plan to sin, it happens and I ask forgiveness, does this cycle ever end?

John says that he who says he does not sin is a lier.

frusteratedblonde · Jan 15, 2006

GraceInHim said:
hope you do not mind.. . I did some bible study last night.. got funny at times.. but a lot of onlookers.. God Bless you also

Don't mind at all, much appreciated

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