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That’s incorrect.
That's it? That's your data?Lol. Mkay.
So I am forced to believe, forced to love your god? How is it justice to punish someone for no crime to be committed?It’s only a threat if you see justice as threatening.
Driewerf:
False. But until now you have only be able to say "wrong". Nothing else. Never, why the science is wrong, or more precisely, what data contradicts the current models in astronomy. You fit exactly in the description that I gave of creationists as anti science.
That's it? That's your data?
This is the uncounted time of so that you are requested to demonstrate that what you is right. And you deflect, dodge or simply evade with an "Lol. Mkay."
If christianity has no better arguments than that, then I will definitely pass on that.
I hope that all doubter, all seekers, all people on the fence see this answer.
as asked in post #1065: are you able to answer in your own words?See Genesis 1.
Factually false. Only a minority of the christians world wide adopt that. The catholic church, which count 1.3 billion people doesn't adopt this view. Other denominations like the Church of England or the Methodists also don't adopt it. It's mainly the fundamentalist American churches that hold that view.Actually the entire basis of the Christian belief in a young earth, 6 24 hour days creation is the Lord Jesus Christ,
Prove it. Provide evidence. I challenge you.Who was not only present at the creation but was used by the Father to speak everything into existence
Again prove it.So, Jesus is actually the “science”, He was there and He was/IS the Word that created
We'll do this one by one. You've said that astronomy is wrong. If the speed of light is wrong then astronomy is a waste of everyone's time. Now let's do geology.Once againI’m not saying that all science is wrong.
Jesus rose from the dead after dying for man’s sins on the crossFactually false. Only a minority of the christians world wide adopt that. The catholic church, which count 1.3 billion people doesn't adopt this view. Other denominations like the Church of England or the Methodists also don't adopt it. It's mainly the fundamentalist American churches that hold that view.
Prove it. Provide evidence. I challenge you.
Again prove it.
I have a question. The Yellowstone Hot spot burned it's way from the Oregon/Nevada border, across Idaho and to it's present location. As the link below shows, geologist have shown that trek as a 16 million year still on going event. The varius explosive locations are well known and mapped. My question is about the Science of Jesus. How does the Science of Jesus account for the many million year journey of the Yellowstone Hot Spot?Actually the entire basis of the Christian belief in a young earth, 6 24 hour days creation is the Lord Jesus Christ, Who was not only present at the creation but was used by the Father to speak everything into existence
So, Jesus is actually the “science”, He was there and He was/IS the Word that created
You are entitled to your opinion and I others are entitled on whose opinion they place more trust in. I am familar with Professor Miller from reading his comments and interacting with him on PS. All I know about you is from what you write on CF.
Your assumptions are incorrect.
I do not doubt that you have forensic evidence but you have not shown it is reliable and predicable when it comes to OoL. You can convince us by producing forensic evidence that consistently produces accurate results.
I have not claimed that there is evidence for abiogenesis and I agree that OoL is one of sciences' great questions. The difference between us is that it appears you have predetermined that life came about through supernatural origins. Perhaps I am wrong so I ask, have you ruled out that OoL could have come about through natural means?
Again your are assumptions are incorrect. They appear to be based on apologetics found on Discovery Institute, AIG and other similar creationist sites.
I am agnostic, as such, I have no idea weather a god exists or not. If god does not exist then our only means of understanding OoL is through natural means using our sciences. If a creator god does exist then he would be the ultimate cause of life regardless of what humans believe but the only way we would know for certain is if god revealed himself.
Having an interest in current science and origins is not a disease modern or otherwise.
Again you are incorrect. FYI, I don't take offense from personal attacks I simply take note of the source.
Go back and see my many responses to this.Okay, if it is, show how it's incorrect. When you say "any science that ignores that the earth was created approximately 6000 years ago, and gives us ages that are far beyond that timeframe, is incorrect", how are you not arguing against science?
Go back and see my many responses to this.
I’ve actually stated why the science is wrong. It’s pretty much been my whole point in being here. I don’t how many more times I can say it.Driewerf:
False. But until now you have only be able to say "wrong". Nothing else. Never, why the science is wrong, or more precisely, what data contradicts the current models in astronomy. You fit exactly in the description that I gave of creationists as anti science.
That's it? That's your data?
This is the uncounted time that you are requested to demonstrate that what you say is right. And you deflect, dodge or simply evade with an "Lol. Mkay."
If creationism has no better arguments than that, then I will definitely pass on that.
I hope that all doubters, all seekers, all people on the fence see this answer.
The crime is sin against a Holy God.So I am forced to believe, forced to love your god? How is it justice to punish someone for no crime to be committed?
Do you punish a woman / man who refuses to give you their love, and call that justice?
As much as you are, I suppose. I doubt you are an astronomer. I doubt you’ve done the primary research. So anything you put forth is someone else’s words.Driewerf:
You don't explain. You just state. Explaining implies supporting made statements.
as asked in post #1065: are you able to answer in your own words?
Once again (You've said that astronomy is wrong.
You have a handbook?I suggest the book "Telling lies for God" by Ian Plimer. I have found it quite useful.
Then you haven’t followed as well as you think.Or you could just answer it, because I've been following this thread for a good while, and you've not said a thing about how you saying "any science that ignores that the earth was created approximately 6000 years ago, and gives us ages that are far beyond that timeframe, is incorrect" is not arguing against science.
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