Another look at the moon landing.

Apple Sky · Saturday at 1:29 PM

Strong in Him said:
The shape of the earth cannot

Strong in Him said:
save the economy

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provide food for people

No but considering the billions of dollars NASA receives each year for space research could.

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And as I have asked several times before - deceive them about what?

Every thing from the spinning globe, the moon landings & the shape of the earth.

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Well if you really do know that it it Jesus who saves, reconciles us to God and gives eternal life, stop acting as though there is a great deception, led by the devil, which will end up being bad news for globe earthers.

The bad news for globers is that one day there most likely will be a fake invasion via Aliens or a fake exploration of Mars all costing billions of dollars again.
NASA already gets around $25 billion a year. How much more are these deceivers going to waste ?

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It can't change life in this world and can't prevent us from enjoying life in the next.

Yes for us Christians but what about the none Christians ? If they knew the truth maybe billions could be joining us too.

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Strong in Him · Saturday at 2:17 PM

Apple Sky said:
No but considering the billions of dollars NASA receives each year for space research could.

Maybe, I don't know how they get their funding.

But do you realise that in the process of researching to send people to the moon, NASA have made/produced;
Mobile phones,
Memory foam,
Freeze dried food,
Battery powered tools,
Improved smoke detectors
and a number of other items that are in everyday use.
All of these came from research by NASA. So if you use, and benefit from, one or more of these things, it's thanks to NASA and all the research they did before sending people into space for several weeks.

Apple Sky said:
Every thing from the spinning globe, the moon landings & the shape of the earth.

And how will that affect/improve their everyday lives and have an impact on their spiritual lives?
The very worst that could happen would be if someone were to die, meet God and he were to say, "you were deceived about the shape of the earth" ,(which he will never do because it isn't important.)
What then? We've already said, and agreed, that it has nothing whatsoever to do with salvation so, so what?

Apple Sky said:
The bad news for globers is that one day there most likely will be a fake invasion via Aliens

Oooh, I'm scared.

Apple Sky said:
or a fake exploration of Mars all costing billions of dollars again.

Why is that bad news for globers?
We don't have dollars in this country nor, as far as I know, do we pay anything towards NASA - the "N" of which stands for National and they're in America.

Apple Sky said:
Yes for us Christians but what about the none Christians ? If they knew the truth maybe billions could be joining us too.

So your whole argument is based on "maybe" and "could be"?

I've said it before, this is nonsense.
Do you really think that someone who doesn't believe in God, doesn't believe they are a sinner and need Jesus and is living their life exactly as they want to may one day be told "the earth is flat" and will suddenly say, "Oh, I'm a sinner. I'm going to give up my sinful lifestyle; drugs, alcohol, crime or simply living as though I can save myself by my own good deeds, believe that Jesus was God and that he can save me, and start going to church"?
IF Flat Earth could save people why didn't Jesus teach it? Why didn't he say, "no need to believe in me, just accept that the earth is flat"?
You've already agreed that the shape of the earth can save no one, so no; billions would not join us if they were told the earth was flat.

Apple Sky · Sunday at 12:14 AM

Strong in Him said:
But do you realise that in the process of researching to send people to the moon, NASA have made/produced;
Mobile phones,
Memory foam,
Freeze dried food,
Battery powered tools,
Improved smoke detectors
and a number of other items that are in everyday use.
All of these came from research by NASA. So if you use, and benefit from, one or more of these things, it's thanks to NASA and all the research they did before sending people into space for several weeks.

All too expensive & rubbish.

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Maybe, I don't know how they get their funding.

By shafting the public out of their hard earned money via taxes.

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And how will that affect/improve their everyday lives and have an impact on their spiritual lives?

Again, for none believers, loads.

Strong in Him said:
Do you really think that someone who doesn't believe in God, doesn't believe they are a sinner and need Jesus and is living their life exactly as they want to may one day be told "the earth is flat" and will suddenly say, "Oh, I'm a sinner. I'm going to give up my sinful lifestyle; drugs, alcohol, crime or simply living as though I can save myself by my own good deeds, believe that Jesus was God and that he can save me, and start going to church"?

Yes, when I have told people about Genesis 1 it makes them think about the rest of the Bible & what else could be true.

Strong in Him said:
Why is that bad news for globers?

When Jesus returns they'll all find out when the firmament cracks open and huge peacies of it fall & all the stars fall to earth, most if still alive will realize how they've been been lied too & deceived.

Strong in Him said:
Do you really think that someone who doesn't believe in God, doesn't believe they are a sinner and need Jesus and is living their life exactly as they want to may one day be told "the earth is flat" and will suddenly say, "Oh, I'm a sinner. I'm going to give up my sinful lifestyle; drugs, alcohol, crime or simply living as though I can save myself by my own good deeds, believe that Jesus was God and that he can save me, and start going to church"?

Yes.

Strong in Him said:
IF Flat Earth could save people why didn't Jesus teach it?

Jesus being Alpha & Omega probably didn't see the need too.

Strong in Him · Sunday at 1:52 AM

Apple Sky said:
All too expensive & rubbish.

i) I thought you had a mobile phone?
b) your opinion doesn't alter the fact that these things exist, are used by, and benefit, many and were produced by NASA. I bet you wouldn't say a smoke alarm was rubbish if you needed one.

Apple Sky said:
Again, for none believers, loads.

Such as? You've already agreed that the shape of the earth doesn't affect salvation.

Apple Sky said:
Yes, when I have told people about Genesis 1 it makes them think about the rest of the Bible & what else could be true.

i) Genesis 1 doesn't teach the shape of the earth.
ii) the first couple of verses of Genesis 1 were read from the moon - heard by millions of people. I find that amazing; you just deny it.
iii) why don't you tell people about Jesus?

Apple Sky said:
When Jesus returns they'll all find out when the firmament cracks open and huge peacies of it fall & all the stars fall to earth, most if still alive will realize how they've been been lied too & deceived.

i) Rubbish.
ii) There may not be any believers on earth when Jesus returns - he may have already taken us to be with him.
iii) So what? We can never be deceived about God, we can never be snatched from his hand nor separated from his love. You expect us to fall at the feet of our Saviour and cry because the earth MAY be a different shape to the one we've always believed it to be? Never going to happen. When we see God face to face we won't even care about the earth - never mind what shape it was.

Apple Sky said:
Yes.

You're more confused than I thought.

Apple Sky said:
Jesus being Alpha & Omega probably didn't see the need too.

IF he didn't see the need to, it means it's not important and can't save anyone - just what we have been saying all along.

But I don't believe for one minute you knew what was in Jesus' mind 2000 years ago.

Apple Sky · Sunday at 4:14 AM

Strong in Him said:
I bet you wouldn't say a smoke alarm was rubbish if you needed one.

I've had them & they are, I removed them years ago.

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ii) There may not be any believers on earth when Jesus returns - he may have already taken us to be with him.

So you believe in a pre-rapture, absolute rubbish.

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But I don't believe for one minute you knew what was in Jesus' mind 2000 years ago.

No - But the prophets did, didn't Jesus inspire the whole Bible ?

Strong in Him · Sunday at 9:52 AM

Apple Sky said:
I've had them & they are, I removed them years ago.

Very foolish.
People have died because their smoke alarms weren't working/they didn't have on.

Apple Sky said:
So you believe in a pre-rapture, absolute rubbish.

No, I said "MAY"; I don't know.

And it's ironic that someone who believes in a flat earth can call another belief "absolute rubbish".

Apple Sky said:
No - But the prophets did, didn't Jesus inspire the whole Bible ?

No, the Holy Spirit did.

And he, or God the Father, could have instructed Jesus to teach a Flat Earth if they had considered it to be remotely important. It isn't.

Apple Sky · Sunday at 10:32 AM

Strong in Him said:
Very foolish.

Are you calling me a fool now ?

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No, I said "MAY"; I don't know.

You could try reading Revelation, just a thought !

Strong in Him · Sunday at 10:42 AM

Apple Sky said:
Are you calling me a fool now ?

I said it was a foolish thing to have done.
The fire brigade themselves talk about the importance of smoke alarms and testing them regularly.

It is a fact that people without smoke alarms have died in fires. Others' lives have been saved by them.

Apple Sky said:
You could try reading Revelation, just a thought !

You have the unscriptural idea of an alien invasion, and then you tell me to go and read Revelation?

There are many interpretations of Revelation; that isn't one of them.

Apple Sky · Monday at 11:44 PM

@prodromos @Strong in Him @Hentenza

I have three questions in regards to the moon landings.

1. Why have we never been back ?
2. Who filmed the Apollo Lunar Module leaving the moon ?
3. Why has NASA never landed a camera on the moon ?

Strong in Him · 2025-08-19T01:25:01-0500

Apple Sky said:
I have three questions in regards to the moon landings.

1. Why have we never been back ?

When you say, "never been back", we have - many times.
The first manned aircraft to have landed on the moon was in 1969, there were others after that. I think man last walked on the moon in 1972.
But many aircraft have been to the moon since, to take photos and/or collect samples. The latest of these was in May 2025.

List of missions to the Moon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

As to your other two questions, I don't know - look it up. (And I don't mean on YouTube.)

Apple Sky · 2025-08-19T03:15:46-0500

Strong in Him said:
When you say, "never been back", we have - many times.

Sorry I should have said, 'never been back' in over 50 years.

Apple Sky · 2025-08-19T03:50:37-0500

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'We're all living in America'

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Thanks Herman.

ozso · 2025-08-19T04:19:48-0500

Apple Sky said:
I have three questions in regards to the moon landings.

1. Why have we never been back ?

There hasn't been any reason to that's worth the billions it takes to keep going back.

Apple Sky said:
2. Who filmed the Apollo Lunar Module leaving the moon ?

A remote controlled camera mounted on a tripod which transmitted the footage.

Apple Sky said:
3. Why has NASA never landed a camera on the moon ?

They have. I find it bizarre that after over a year of going over this, you don't seem to know anything about it. You're asking questions about things you should have come to understand a long time ago. Are you just pulling everyone's chain?

Apple Sky · 2025-08-19T04:25:47-0500

Apple Sky said:
3. Why has NASA never landed a camera on the moon ?

ozso said:
They have.

When & where ?

David Lamb · 2025-08-19T04:42:04-0500

Apple Sky said:
When & where ?

A quick Google search brought up this:

"For each lunar landing mission, a camera was also placed inside the Apollo Lunar Module (LM) descent stage's modularized equipment stowage assembly (MESA). Positioning the camera in the MESA made it possible to telecast the astronauts' first steps as they climbed down the LM's ladder at the start of a mission's first moonwalk/EVA. Afterwards, the camera would be detached from its mount in the MESA, mounted on a tripod and carried away from the LM to show the EVA's progress; or, mounted on a Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV), where it could be remotely controlled from Mission Control on Earth."

ozso · 2025-08-19T05:40:18-0500

Apple Sky said:
When & where ?

Basically you're asking people to Google stuff for you.

Apple Sky · 2025-08-19T05:56:30-0500

Apple Sky said:
3. Why has NASA never landed a camera on the moon ?

ozso said:
Basically you're asking people to Google stuff for you.

No I'm not, if NASA put a camera on the moon why is it not live streaming today ?

David Lamb · 2025-08-19T06:06:10-0500

Apple Sky said:
No I'm not, if NASA put a camera on the moon why is it not live streaming today ?

First, it would be surprising if the camera's power source hadn't run out after over 50 years, and second, what new would it show if it were still able to live stream. I suppose a third point is that the cameras were placed on the moon long before the internet existed, let alone live streaming.

Apple Sky · 2025-08-19T06:07:30-0500

David Lamb said:
Afterwards, the camera would be detached from its mount in the MESA, mounted on a tripod and carried away from the LM to show the EVA's progress; or, mounted on a Lunar Roving Vehicle (LRV), where it could be remotely controlled from Mission Control on Earth."

They couldn't remotely control anything on the moon let alone a camera.

David Lamb · 2025-08-19T06:19:33-0500

Apple Sky said:
They couldn't remotely control anything on the moon let alone a camera.

Another statement with no evidence at all. Please, don't just say that something can't be true - give some evidence to back it up. Without it, the "discussion" could end up with you repeating one thing and those who think differently repeating the opposite. In this case, you need to provide evidence that they could not remotely control anything on the moon, or at least say why you think they couldn't do so. It would make the discussion more meaningful.

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