Angular Unconformities

ikester7579 · Mar 2, 2003

Today at 02:24 AM webboffin said this in Post #20

Seems funny to me that this subject is brought up to dispell another. But anyways.

Yep. refers to first post. Thread starter refers to yecs, so I refer to oees. And to pose a question.

Here's a link on many different types of radio isotopes and there half lifes. Notice that none of these half lifes are in the millions of years that science says it took for rocks to form.

http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Radiography/EquipmentMaterials/isotopesources.htm

chickenman · Mar 2, 2003

ikester7579 · Mar 2, 2003

Today at 02:43 AM chickenman said this in Post #22

 

Yep, that's exackly the way I feel.

Gracchus · Mar 2, 2003

ikester7579: You admit you're changing the subject. You are doing this because you are unable to fit unconformities into flood geology. You will not admit this, but you have no answer to the evidence written by the hand of God into the very stones.

KJV Psalm 19:1 {To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.} The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

You are not on the side of the angels, ikester7579, and I don't think they want you on their side. You are not honest.  You are perverse, and sow dissension, hoping in vain to obscure your ignorance and intellectual sloth.

I suggest, if you really want an answer to your question (which we all not you do not) you could do a search on radioactive decay series, half-life and isotopes.  You could find out about the various ways granite can form. But we all know you won't, because you are not really interested in the truth.

LewisWildermuth · Mar 2, 2003

Today at 11:06 PM ikester7579 said this in Post #19 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=684789#post684789)

And how long did it take for granite rocks to appear? If you bust one open, you will find a radio isotope rings inside. Since an radio isotope half life is less than 5 seconds, how could these rings get caught in every granite rock? Seems like a sudden formation happened. Funny how old earth evolutionist don't address this.

Do you mean radiohalos? As in AiG's argument here?

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/magazines/docs/v23n4_radiohalo.asp

First off it is funny that AiG would say that radiometric dating is not accurate then try to use it when they think it supports them(it does not)... A little two-faced don't you think?

Here are a few other ideas on it...

http://www.californiaaggie.com/_articles/5763.taf

http://www.csun.edu/~vcgeo005/mark.htm

http://ftp.ics.uci.edu/pub/origins/po-halos.txt

http://members.aol.com/ps418/ph.htm

It seems like this is not such a clear cut case...

notto · Mar 2, 2003

Today at 07:30 AM ikester7579 said this in Post #21 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=684816#post684816)

Yep. refers to first post. Thread starter refers to yecs, so I refer to oees. And to pose a question.

Here's a link on many different types of radio isotopes and there half lifes. Notice that none of these half lifes are in the millions of years that science says it took for rocks to form.

http://www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Radiography/EquipmentMaterials/isotopesources.htm

Your list is not a complete list of isotopes. It is a list of isotopes used in Radiography because of their properties that suit this use well.

Here is something that is tough for YEC's to explain related to isotopes
http://www.accuracyingenesis.com/missing.html

ardipithecus · Mar 2, 2003

Yesterday at 07:06 AM ikester7579 said this in Post #19

And how long did it take for granite rocks to appear? If you bust one open, you will find a radio isotope rings inside. Since an radio isotope half life is less than 5 seconds, how could these rings get caught in every granite rock? Seems like a sudden formation happened. Funny how old earth evolutionist don't address this.

Funny how young-earth creationists on these discussion forums never actually bother to check to see if their favorite argument has been addressed.  The Po holos arguments have been long discredited.  See this detailed examination and the T.O. page on the subject.

And funny how YECs like to change the subject when unconformities come up.

 

ardipithecus · Mar 2, 2003

Yesterday at 07:02 AM ikester7579 said this in Post #18

As someone ask me once: This is quite old, do you have anything newer?

 

The Hutton Unconformity looks the same two hundred years later and the implications for YECism are still the same.   And it is far from the only example I gave.

Unconformities disprove YECism.

ikester7579 · Mar 3, 2003

Yesterday at 03:35 AM Gracchus said this in Post #24

ikester7579: You admit you're changing the subject. You are doing this because you are unable to fit unconformities into flood geology. You will not admit this, but you have no answer to the evidence written by the hand of God into the very stones.

KJV Psalm 19:1 {To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.} The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

You are not on the side of the angels, ikester7579, and I don't think they want you on their side. You are not honest.  You are perverse, and sow dissension, hoping in vain to obscure your ignorance and intellectual sloth.

I suggest, if you really want an answer to your question (which we all not you do not) you could do a search on radioactive decay series, half-life and isotopes.  You could find out about the various ways granite can form. But we all know you won't, because you are not really interested in the truth.

Funny how when people get to the point where things are not going their way, they resort to personal attacks. These attacks used to make me mad. Now they make me laugh. Besides, being on the angels side does not get you into heaven. Being on God's and his son (Jesus) does.

Gracchus · Mar 3, 2003

ikester7579: You're not fooling anyone, except of course, yourself.

ikester7579 · Mar 3, 2003

Today at 03:39 AM Gracchus said this in Post #30

ikester7579: You're not fooling anyone, except of course, yourself.

Yeah, I also hear you can't fool God. 

Mechanical Bliss · Mar 3, 2003

Today at 03:18 AM ikester7579 said this in Post #29

Funny how when people get to the point where things are not going their way, they resort to personal attacks. These attacks used to make me mad. Now they make me laugh. Besides, being on the angels side does not get you into heaven. Being on God's and his son (Jesus) does.

No, what's funny is that you can't stick to the topic and decide instead to bring up an unrelated argument that you think supports your case when it, in fact, does not as the "Polonium halo" argument has already been addressed.

The topic was about angular unconformities (and unconformities in general). Your avoidance of the topic indicates just how fatal these features are to YECism.

There are several threads circulating recently that refute YECism. Why have they not been addressed by YECs?

webboffin · Mar 3, 2003

He is placing his opinion as much as anyone else. And he was insulted for them. (not unusual)

Nathan David · Mar 3, 2003

Catching someone in a lie and calling them on it is not an insult.

webboffin · Mar 3, 2003

it is if you insult them when you catch them out

Gracchus · Mar 4, 2003

If you are insulted by the truth, it is your own fault.

webboffin · Mar 4, 2003

And you are the first not too?

ardipithecus · Mar 9, 2003

Still no YEC willing to take on unconformities. So far nothing much more a can we change the subject. It is very telling.

PhantomLlama · Mar 10, 2003

It's not really surprising. A habit seems to be made of not adressing the things that disprove Creationism. I mean, if they are thinking 'I think they are wrong, we just haven't found the reason why yet' then they could at least say that.

Mechanical Bliss · Mar 15, 2003

Since there seem to be several YECs frequenting the boards again, I thought I'd bump up this topic on angular unconformities and unconformities in general to see if some YECs might address it.

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