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Evidence is why your home boys got spanked in the Dover trial.

Any questions?
 
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Then you would be totally ignorant of how your computer works.

How do you think it was invented in the first place?
 
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It's hard to hold back your ignorance of science, isn't it?
 
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You have done that on your own. Your posts speak for themselves.

ok well that is begging the question as to what science is (arbitrary, or doesn't add information to the conclusion) (that I don't know what science is)

so please if you wish to contribute evidence go ahead....
 
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ok well that is begging the question as to what science is (arbitrary, or doesn't add information to the conclusion) (that I don't know what science is)

so please if you wish to contribute evidence go ahead....

Do you think you would be punching the keys on a computer, posting messages that are sent in fractions of seconds, without the advancements made from scientific work to discover the technology to do so?
 
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A friend of mine at work is a principal scientific officer (that's above higher scientific officer and senior scientific officer), and has a PhD, mentioned to me earlier this year that he earns £50,000 a year. The contrast is certainly striking.
 
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yes, there are many problems with the dover case, I suggest a podcast from discovery.org on the issue.

Intelligent Design the Future

whether ID is science:

CSC - Whether Intelligent Design is Science

I am listening to Luskin try to defend the IDists and he starts off with a statement that was shown to be a lie in the Dover trial, he claims "ID is not creationism", and yet they were able to show in the Dover trial that the textbook that was supposed to teach creationism was switched to one that was supposed to teach ID by only replacing the phrase "intelligent design" for "creationism". When a supposed defense starts off this badly I don't see why I should listen any further.
 
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ok well that is begging the question as to what science is (arbitrary, or doesn't add information to the conclusion) (that I don't know what science is)

so please if you wish to contribute evidence go ahead....

Evidence is empirically gathered facts that can be used to test a hypothesis. To put it another way, evidence in science is gathered from repeatable experiments that should produce the same data, within a range of error, for anyone who does the experiment. This would include measurements of fossils, DNA sequences, and isotope ratios in rocks.

The second part of evidence, as hinted at above, is the ability to test a hypothesis. To use forensic science as an example, if any DNA sequence would be considered a match to the suspect's DNA then that DNA is not evidence. Hypotheses need to make risky predictions. Creationism fails this part of the equation. For example, no matter what features a fossil has no creationist is going to accept it as transitional. No matter what features a rock or sediment layer has it will never be considered evidence of age by creationists. That is why creationism does not have evidence, because nothing can change their mind.
 
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ok, where is it? I can't find it....did you lose it?

I guess I should have put in the word "honestly".

You have been presented with evidence. As I said all fossils found to date have been evidence for evolution. Lucy is evidence for evolution. They fit in the evolutionary paradigm. They are undeniable evidence.

To show that they do not support evolution you have to show the evidence is not of the age we believe it to be. Remember, we do have evidence for the dates, those are independent of the theory of evolution.

Creationists hate the proper scientific definition of evidence. The definition that they depend on every day of their lives in many different ways. That definition, which is used by all science, not just evolution means they cannot deny that there is evidence for evolution. Most avoid learning it so that they have a hair of "plausible deniability" when it comes to evidence.

It is the only way that they can keep lying to themselves.
 
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Do you think you would be punching the keys on a computer, posting messages that are sent in fractions of seconds, without the advancements made from scientific work to discover the technology to do so?

Uh, those are operation sciences that can be tested, observed and repeated in the here and now. They have nothing to do with evolution theory. Absolutely nothing.
 
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