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All down to random chance...

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paul becke said:
Move along.. Nothing to see that needed to be intelligently designed.
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Yeah, it's an amazing little thing: two hands, two feet, busily dragging it's cargo where it needs to go. Yet it, and the specifications to make it, just came together via trial and error? Yeah, right. Myself, I think Paul's words are still true.
 
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ChetSinger said:


Yeah, it's an amazing little thing: two hands, two feet, busily dragging it's cargo where it needs to go. Yet it, and the specifications to make it, just came together via trial and error? Yeah, right. Myself, I think Paul's words are still true.
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Reminds me of Cardinal Bellarmine . . .

"First, . . . to want to affirm that in reality the sun is at the center of the world and only turns on itself without moving from east to west, and the earth . . . revolves with great speed about the sun . . . is a very dangerous thing, likely not only to irritate all scholastic philosophers and theologians, but also to harm the Holy Faith by rendering Holy Scripture false."
 
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ChetSinger said:


Yeah, it's an amazing little thing: two hands, two feet, busily dragging it's cargo where it needs to go. Yet it, and the specifications to make it, just came together via trial and error? Yeah, right. Myself, I think Paul's words are still true.
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It isn't trial and error, also if Intelligent Design was so intelligent than god messed up, because Bunny's have a faulty imperfect digestion system.
 
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szechuan said:
It isn't trial and error, also if Intelligent Design was so intelligent than god messed up, because Bunny's have a faulty imperfect digestion system.
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Bunnies have been around far longer than anything we've designed, so whatever you think of his handiwork he has a more impressive engineering resume than any of us. Is that right?
 
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Bunnies have been around far longer than anything we've designed, so whatever you think of his handiwork he has a more impressive engineering resume than any of us. Is that right?
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The evidence points to evolution by natural selection.

And I am highly impressed by the results overall!
 
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whats so bad about something being random?

Honestly, there is little that I have seen in nature that can truly random.
Design? Sure, similar habitat types and lifestyles of animals can produce similar body types and coloration. A basic design that works for the fitness of the animal in its habitat. Not exactly random

Intelligent design? God must love squids more, as their eyes are more "intelligently" designed than human eyes.

God created the most capable animal to have ever been on earth. Only to make sex, and using ones own senses a sin. A entire universe of creation, but man is to only believe the contents of a book.

That's not intelligent, that's ignorant.
 
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Loudmouth said:
Why did it need to be intelligently designed?
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Because the finest scientific, human minds have still proved incapable of even remotely approaching the creation - even given all the necessary materials - of something as extraordinarily complex as a single cell of the simplest bacterium.

How does that make the already fatuous 'promissory note' sound - that one day, science will explain everything?
 
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paul becke said:
There is no selection. Selection predicates an intelligence. They use it in the sense of an outcome.
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Thats why its called natural selection, to distinguish it from conscious selection.

The conditions of the natural environment drive the process toward suitable outcomes, and 'reject' unsuitable ones..
 
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