A questions to atheists

phsyxx said:

Well, no, actually, the "selfishness of the others soldiers", is not something which exists here.

If one person offers to do something, and you, being a selfless person wish to make life easy for them, then you would allow them to do it.
If they did not offer, however, you would do it yourself.

Why? Because arguing about who can take the rubbish out actually causes more agro and stress than nobody taking it out at all.

So, if one soldier gives himself for the cause, although all the other soldiers would give themselves to the cause - they have to be selfless enough to ALLOW the one soldier to do his job.


"It is not aggression which holds back the punch,
and it is not selfishness which holds back the tongue."

This means that by giving somebody else the "glorious death", they are infact being quite selfless in their attitude.
It would only be selfishness if none of the soldiers offered to sacrifice themselves, and pushed one of them forwards.

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So if I constantly strive to further my own goals by accepting what others offer to me, I am in fact acting selflessly?

Wow, I´d had never thought of that!

Mortensen said:

You don't understand. If you are sure that there is no god, that there is no doubt, you wouldn't have pushed the button. That is a fact. If you deny it, you haven't open you mind further enough

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It would seem that this is another Christian who can recognize no motivations beyond reward and punishment.

To the OP, I'd defiantly press the button.

Just because I don't think I'll exist to enjoy the world after I die doesn't mean I don't have an emotional investment in it being a better place both in general and in particularly for the people I care about. I have a trait called empathy that allows me to be happy that other people are happy (It helps primates get along in large groups).

Also at the instant I die I am still able to feel and change the world to a manner I'd prefer it… in this case to have it include my nearest and dearest. Why would I spend my last instant aware _ever_ mourning my soon to be dead friends when I could be content that at least they will live on?

phsyxx said:

Maybe, just maybe- I should point out that
"theo" means GOD>
hence theology- the study of God.
Theism- a belief in god/gods or a parthenon.
Monotheism- belief in One God.
Polytheism- Belief in multiple Gods.
Atheism- Belief in LACK of God.
Agnosticism- view that God's existence is unprovable: the belief that it is impossible to know whether or not God exists

so people who are agnostics belief that there is NOTHING to believe- as all belief IN REGARDS TO GOD- is pointless, as above definition shows why.



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I feel you have made a mistake in your definitions.

A Theist is someone who believes in a god or gods, an Atheist is "Not a Theist"… the opposite of belief in a god is to lack belief… this set includes both those who have faith that there are no gods and those who merely don't believe due to lack of any reason to.

For example a person who had never been told that there was such a thing as a god or spirit would be an Atheist because that didn't believe in any god or gods… but you couldn't accuse them having faith in there being no gods, they wouldn't even know what you were talking about.

What if I don't like certain family members? Could I choose to have them join me before I press the button??

(I'm totally kidding if I could give my life for that of my families of course I'd do it)

phsyxx said:

Right.

May I make is absolutely flipping clear to everyone that
"IN REGARDS TO GOD"
Means "in regards to the judeo-christian concept of GOD"

OKK!!!!

I am not talking in terms of silly creations!

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Yes you are.

Marz Blak said:

'A questions to atheists'

You sure you're not Skwisgaar Skwigelf from Metalocalypse?

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Now that you mention it...

Ah it worked, was just figuring out where I could post after being knocked back from joining in general apologetics!

Hello there everyone, one more atheist to add to the boards...