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A message from Adam to all of humanity as given to Pastor Rick Joyner!

Where do you personally think that Pastor Rick Joyner got this message?

  • I tend to strongly suspect that his message is from God and is probably true!

  • I suspect that Rick Joyner is one of the most intelligent Christian deceivers.

  • I suspect that Rick Joyner may have been involved in LSD tests in the '60's!

  • OK, that is pretty good...I think I will read it one more time!!!!


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Extremely well said Easy G! I read part of your post over four times and all of it twice....that is somewhat out of the ordinary for me!

I have the book the vision open here beside me and there is a paragraph that hits me like a sword so well, and cuts so deep into where I have been at almost all my life...that it may help to explain why I read Rick Joyner so much during this season of my life:

......Rick Joyner from page 139, subtitle The Writer's Remorse:



This paragraph is pretty much the story of my life!!!!!

One of the major reasons why I was so impressed with Garner Ted Armstrong and his dad Herbert W. is because they gave me material to work with that allowed me to win just about any debate with almost anybody as long as we took a sola scritura approach to the debate!!!!

My motivation to be here at this discussion forum is partly good....but also partly an ego trip just like that writer whose books had been a major source of encouragement for Rick Joyner himself!
 
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I disagree because certain portions of what was given to Rick Joyner hit me with a power that and a clarity that is almost impossible to find! Yes, I could have learned these things another way but it seems like Rick Joyner and I have many similar character flaws so since he openly writes about his own problems, he makes it easy for me to learn from him.

I would like to take a minute to try to do the best that I could to speculate on what Simon bar Jonah/Peter/Cephas might say if I went into a G-force jet fighter training device, had an out of the body experience and met the Apostle Peter:

 
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Here's something that would help. Go up to the top of the forum list and read the SOP. It says that (and I paraphrase), if you are not MJ you can only post in fellowship not teach, debate, discuss, etc. That's the way it is. Any questions please pm me or one of the other upgrade members.

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I am too busy to read a lot and it seems like everyone preaching has a book out.

What are some of the heresies or things that don't line up with scripture that Brother Joyner writes about?

Shalom

PS I've never heard of Rick Joyner
 
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No problem. It's obvious that this is being used to shoot down anyone that says anything that "we" don't like such as me saying I'm a Jew (God's scripture says I've been grafted in, regardless of what you think!).

If anyone knows of a board that is for "Christians" (so it matched my icon), please let me know thru PM so I don't have to come back here which obviously is making you folks upset.

I'll not come here any more and see if I can find a board for "Christians" Yes, thanks and God bless.
 
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I'm going to pray for you. I pray that God richly and abundantly blesses you and yours. IJN, Amen
 
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OK... I just read the OP, and the ensuing dialog. What is supposed to be so exciting and inspiring about Joyner? I see nothing here that isn't commonly taught in any Christian church, for good or for ill.
 
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OK... I just read the OP, and the ensuing dialog. What is supposed to be so exciting and inspiring about Joyner? I see nothing here that isn't commonly taught in any Christian church, for good or for ill.
So here's the pastor who a lot of people in the thread don't seem to like and you state that it's in many Christian churches. Brother Mishkan, I'm not sure I know how to take this.

Shalom
 
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So here's the pastor who a lot of people in the thread don't seem to like and you state that it's in many Christian churches. Brother Mishkan, I'm not sure I know how to take this.

Shalom
LOL! I hadn't even thought about it that way. Sorry!

But seriously... the whole script is little more than a warmed-over "Don't do as I did" sermon. Is there really anything identifiably unique to Joyner in that alleged "vision"? Why does anyone care what he says, one way or the other?

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My point was not to equate Joyner with any particular denominational teaching, or to broadbrush any particular denomination with the negative association Joyner seems to attract. All I said was that there is nothing novel in the entire "vision". Every element in there can be found in numerous denominations and/or churches. It is nothing more than a patchwork quilt of various charismatic teachings. That's why I fail to understand the significance of his message. Especially in a Messianic context. In fact, I have to question whether this is even a valid topic for this forum.
 
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I am too busy to read a lot and it seems like everyone preaching has a book out.

What are some of the heresies or things that don't line up with scripture that Brother Joyner writes about?

Shalom

PS I've never heard of Rick Joyner
HI Sacerdote, If you've never heard of him how is it you can call him brother? That is a bit scary to me.
 
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HI Sacerdote, If you've never heard of him how is it you can call him brother? That is a bit scary to me.

Well I know he is Christian Clergy and that he does some good. I just don't know a lot about him. Yet because he is a Christian he is my brother in Christ. Why would he not be your brother in Christ? And what is up with the last sentence? I take it as a slur toward me. Is that what it is Lulav?
 
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Of course not. I was just wondering how you view someone as your brother. Why would I make any slurs at you? gosh, I was just trying to understand.

I personally use Yeshua's version found here.


from Matthew 12

And from Luke 8

But He answered and said to them, "My mother and
My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it."
Just because someone uses the label, 'christian' does not mean they are a follower of Jesus.

We are to have discernment.


Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but
From that for guidance I consider Rick Joyner and "Todd Bentley to fall in the latter group of 'Many' and if Jesus would not consider them his brothers, neither do I.
 
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