A FEW DYING QUES.

xr022kbKr02h · Oct 7, 2003

I am actually a Buddist but have a few dying question to ask here.Please pardon me if i seems rude in any way.

1. I heard someone tells me that the Bibble teaches people that animals are created for human comsumtion. If this is so, we are suppose to kill animals for food without second thoughts...so how can a religion be good if the people are uncompationate for the animals?

2. Is dinosaurs created by God.If so, is it written in the Bibble.

3. How are animals such as polar bears, penguin, and microsopic organisums added to the Norh's Ark?

xr022kbKr02h · Oct 7, 2003

Why am i speaking to myself???

Rafael · Oct 7, 2003

Before the fall there may have been a different way of nourishment for all animals, but since the fall into sin and death all creation groans under the weight of it.

Dinosaurs may have been on earth before the time that God decided to put man upon the earth, as a day is as a thousand years to the Lord and He stands outside of the bounds of time, in eternity. In Genesis, there is much speculation of what happened on earth's formation before man appeared, but God did not fill in the details - "the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters" (Genesis 1:2).

The control of animals would present no problem to God, being powerful enough to create them in the first place. Logically, micro-organisms would not require much space at all, and by the dimensions left of the ark, it has been shown that it was well, bug enough to house and feed the animals of the world for the forty plus days needed. God is able, surely, to arrange things either logically or miraculously in His power to do all things He wants and as He sees fit.

Rafael · Oct 7, 2003

ruixiangz said:
Why am i speaking to myself???

It is a little early in the morning....patience?

super slug · Oct 7, 2003

Is rearing, feeding, housing, farming slaughtering (or hunting) then eating animals uncompassionate?

I dont think so, (Leaving aside the practices of greed we see in todays food production, which is another argument).

xr022kbKr02h · Oct 8, 2003

I muz say that i dun quite agree wit 'super slug'. Animals are also living beings too, to kill them juz for food is completly unnessary. Scientist said that we humans are suppose to be herbivore/vegetarian...as our teeth struture and stomach are 'design' for vegetables only.

Humans and animals are living things...they are of no different...so is it sensible to kill human for food???

Rafael · Oct 8, 2003

What is the example given to us by nature, ruixiange? What foods do animals eat in nature?

If you are going to put man on the same level as animal, then you would have to say that it is natural for man to eat meats of other animals as the example of nature gives us.

Scientists change their minds on coffee about every five years, and fish is supposed to be very benefitial to man for food in many ways. Plants are alive too, and you are saying their life is less than that of animals? Plants give us the oxygen we need to breathe and live. All life comes from and is given by God, and if He says it is edible, then who should I trust? Man...? Man cannot make one cell of plant life or animal, yet judges over that life as if it were his own creation.

Deciding to not eat the body of life from animals or plants is your decision, but feeling righteous over others about what you eat makes no sense to me. We have to eat in these temporary bodies that demand food. If you want to eat or not eat, that is fine with me, but to use it as a complaint against Christians is an unfair judgment, in my opinion.

xr022kbKr02h · Oct 8, 2003

very good debate...i feel.
My Mum ask...tiger also eats human...so is human created for tiger consumtion...the answer should be no ( i think...)

wvmtnkid · Oct 8, 2003

ruixiangz said:
. Scientist said that we humans are suppose to be herbivore/vegetarian...as our teeth struture and stomach are 'design' for vegetables only.

Not trying to be rude, but asking a sincere question. If my stomach is only designed for vegetables, than I shouldn't be able to eat meat, right? I wouldn't be able to digest it properly. But I can. So, I am not sure that is a plausible argument for not eating meat. Now if I stopped eating meat, my body would stop producing the enzymes and such that is needed to help break it down and digest it. But that doesn't mean my stomach wasn't "designed" not to eat meat.

I agree with Raphe. We are free to eat whatever we want, whether that is only vegetarian type menus or meat, but I don't think we should condemn others for chosing to eat something different. My religion tells me that my God created animals as a source of food for humans, and that is what I believe. Do I think the animals should be treated inhumanely? No, I don't. But I enjoy eating meat as well as vegetables and fruits. To each their own.

ZiSunka · Oct 8, 2003

ruixiangz said:
I am actually a Buddist but have a few dying question to ask here.Please pardon me if i seems rude in any way.

1. I heard someone tells me that the Bibble teaches people that animals are created for human comsumtion. If this is so, we are suppose to kill animals for food without second thoughts...so how can a religion be good if the people are uncompationate for the animals?

Is a religion that ignores the suffering of people any better? Yet Buddhism teaches that the enlightened will ignore the suffering of others and make every effort to become disassociated with people. The person who has a heart for the suffering people of the world is not succeeding as a Buddhist.

Also, the Bible actually says that Godly people are kind to their animals, not cruel. So you missed on that account, too.

And finally, God made a very detailed list of which animals are for food and which ones are to be left in the wild, and he did this to preserve wild animals from abuse.

Our God is not the in business of being unkind, uncompassionate, or cruel to animals, AND he cares about the suffering of people, too.

Can YOUR Buddha say that?

Peter · Oct 8, 2003

1. I heard someone tells me that the Bibble teaches people that animals are created for human comsumtion

Man and animal were created together and were not meant to be at odds with each other. The "Brotherhood" of nature was broken by Adam's sin. And, right from the beginning God showed Adam that a sacrifice was needed to overcome the consequences of that sin when God made clothing for he and Eve out of animal skins. When we consume animal flesh, this IS unnatural. It is outside of God's design. However, it is allowed. It is a constant reminder of the sinful world in which we live.

2. Is dinosaurs created by God.If so, is it written in the Bibble.

Evidence supports the existance of dinasours. As Christians, we believe God created all living things. This would include dinasours. What became of them is another question. Genesis, Job and Ezekial all talk about "sea monsters".

3. How are animals such as polar bears, penguin, and microsopic organisums added to the Norh's Ark?

Adam did have 100 years to get the job done. Beyond that, I can't say because were aren't told the "how", just the "what".

BTW, welcome to CF and thank you for asking your questions.

Peace.

Peter

xr022kbKr02h · Oct 9, 2003

i dun know if i should be saying this on a Christian website...but what lambslove say about the Buddha is totally untrue.
I once misunderstand about Christian, that they do not have scientlfic proof. Like me, Lambslove did not try to understand other religion.
By the way, Buddisum will die out long ago if Buddha really did say these 'cold-heatred' things. It is because of his teaching that i m asking the question on killing animals!

I m NOT trying to be rude in any way

Krazeekkc · Oct 10, 2003

ruixiangz said:
I am actually a Buddist but have a few dying question to ask here.Please pardon me if i seems rude in any way.

1. I heard someone tells me that the Bibble teaches people that animals are created for human comsumtion. If this is so, we are suppose to kill animals for food without second thoughts...so how can a religion be good if the people are uncompationate for the animals?

2. Is dinosaurs created by God.If so, is it written in the Bibble.

3. How are animals such as polar bears, penguin, and microsopic organisums added to the Norh's Ark?

1. I don't think God just created animals for us to eat but for many reasons. God gave us rule over the animals and I do think we are compassionate for animals. I mean many Christians have cats, dogs, and other animals.

2. As for the dinasours know one is quite sure. I also haven't read anything in the Bible that clearly says anything about dinosaurs.

3. God created all of the animals; why couldn't He get two of each onto the ark? He is all powerful. He can do anyhting.

Rising_Suns · Oct 10, 2003

1. I heard someone tells me that the Bibble teaches people that animals are created for human comsumtion. If this is so, we are suppose to kill animals for food without second thoughts...so how can a religion be good if the people are uncompationate for the animals?

Peters post is right on target with Christianity here. Animals were not created soley for human consumption. In fact, the bible says that a good man, is "one who loves his animals" (back in that day, everyone had animals to take care of, raise, sell, etc.). So whoever told you that Christianity allows brutality towards animals is dead wrong.

3. How are animals such as polar bears, penguin, and microsopic organisums added to the Norh's Ark?

I believe you asked this question under the assumption that God intended to save ALL animals from exitinction. This is not true. God actually planned to wipe out many species of animals along with man. Thus, not EVERY animal that existed back then, was neccessarily brought to the ark.

Hope this helped.

May the peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you always.

MikeMcK · Oct 13, 2003

ruixiangz said:
1. I heard someone tells me that the Bible teaches people that animals are created for human comsumtion. If this is so, we are suppose to kill animals for food without second thoughts...so how can a religion be good if the people are uncompationate for the animals?

Well, first of all, there's a difference between allowing animals to be killed and commanding that they be killed.

The second thing is, we're commanded to have compassion for people but is compassion for people the same as compassion for animals? One is made in the image of God and the other isn't.

Certainly, we're not to be unecessarily cruel to animals but if an animal is given to us specifically to be killed for food, is it uncompassionate to kill them for food?

2. Is dinosaurs created by God.If so, is it written in the Bible.

Yes, they were created by God. Are they in the Bible? There are some vauge referrences to the "behemoth", which some people think might be referring to dinosaurs but, no, you're not going to find a verse that says, "and David went out and slew the tyrannisaurus rex.

3. How are animals such as polar bears, penguin, and microsopic organisums added to the Norh's Ark?

I don't know but I'll bet it sure smelled pretty bad.

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