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What a liar. I'm not interpretting it, I'm reading it, it takes disbelief or extremely twisted interpretation to get anything else out of what Paul said.seebs said:"Well, I don't believe your interpretation of it."
Since everything in scripture is written by a man, I suppose you don't even know God.seebs said:"Uh-huh. I am practically dogmatic in my refusal to mistake the Apostles for God."
The LDS worship a different God.seebs said:"People are people, and people seeking God are people seeking God."
Prakk said:You are unlearned.
But I thought you LIKED the rough stuff Mu.MuAndNu said:"But let me make it clear to all that I do not share your attitude!"
I won't get trapped in the red herring discussion of whether or not Paul saw women as subordinate to men. Any thorough or honest reading of Paul requires gymnastics beyond olympic quality, to reach a conclusion apart from the obvious one. The Bible is not a "living document" in the same way that revisionists view the US Constitution. Paul didn't put meanings into his letters that were to be "discovered" later by progressive scholars.seebs said:"This may be. I have a lot of learning left to do, certainly."
In examing the issue of marriage, it seems people are interested in maintaining our cultural definition of marriage, which excludes consideration for other cultural marriage practices. These include polygamous marriages, which are accepted throughout the world and in past cultures. In fact, it is even practiced by many Jewish religious figures in the Old Testament. I do not understand why polygamy, therefore, should be against the law in a supposedly secular nation, when in fact, I can't seem to find anything objectionable about it that doesn't involve biblical interpretations.
With the increasing acceptance of non-traditional western marriages, I do think polygamy will be a more debated subject in the future. Especially when these marriages involve bisexual partners, rather than all heterosexual ones.
In evaluating this, I see emotional benefits and hardships for the partners involved, both being about equal. For children, I see an advantage in having more of chance of getting attention and possibly a stay-at-home parent. The only downside I can see is a vague assertion that it will somehow 'harm' the child in being raised. However, single parent households prove that having one male and one female parent is not necessary for development. Economically, it is obviously advantageous.
So, can someone tell me why this issue is a big deal at all? Outside of violating the status quo, of course.
You can count me among those who see Paul as saying what he meant, meaning what he said, and not trying to bury a secret contradictory meaning underneath a blatant and obvious one. God had his writings included in scripture because they are scripture and inspired by God. Nothing Paul writes in the New Testament represents doctrinal error.seebs said:The questions of what Paul meant, and whether Paul was always right, are substantial ones.
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