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Also, it's creationists who have no idea where life originated. Scientists at least have some idea.
Jesus said:
Jhn 12:48 He that rejecteth Me, and receiveth not My words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
Today is the 6th Day or Age and God has but 7 Days. The 7th Day is Eternity and has NO ending and no evening.
Dear bhsmte, Yes since every human who has ever lived has lived and died on the present 6th Day, or Age, the last day in the Creation of the perfect third Heaven. This includes Adam unless you choose to believe Satan instead of Jesus. Jesus told Adam that "in the day" he disobeyed, he would surely die. Satan told Eve, you shall not surely die. EVERY human has lived and died TODAY.
In Love,
Aman
Originally Posted by Aman777Dear TF, Then tell us WHERE life, on our Planet, originated Scientifically. I know you cannot but go ahead and try. Was it from Black Smokers, Outer Space, or in the water like the FIRST life, which was bacteria, which appeared some 3.7 Billion years ago exactly as God told us in Genesis 1:21?
Did you even bother to read what I just wrote to you?
Evolutionary theory does not address the issue of the origin of life.
But go ahead and cherry pick a singular, vague instance of Genesis accurately predicting something and ignoring, say, Genesis's claim that the plants were created before the stars, or the hundreds of other scientific anomalies scattered just throughout the first two books. It's the classic psychic/astrologist/voodo scheme; make 20 vague predictions and zero in on the 1 that slightly matches reality.
Dear Eight Foot Manchild, False. Man was FIRST made on the 3rd Day, the SAME Day the first Earth was made AND the Day the Big Bang began our Cosmos. Genesis 2:4-7 Life from the water began some 9 Billion years AFTER human kind was made. Genesis 1:21
This Scriptural FACT destroys the Lies of the False ToE since humans were NOT made on our Planet. Since Humans were FIRST made, we could NOT have evolved from ANY other living creature.
Genesis shows us that we live in a Multiverse
I have many more things which you will find absolutely impossible to explain.
I dare you to substantiate this, with reference to the original Hebrew. Find a translation that predates any modern multiverse hypothesis, but clearly, succinctly and accurately describes it. Can you do it?
[HINT: No, you can't.]
In reality, Genesis does not remotely reflect the findings of cosmology, or any other discipline, for that matter.
Light exists before light sources - Wrong, and absurd
The sky is a 'canopy' over the Earth - Wrong, and absurd
The first plants are seed-bearing - Wrong by millions of years
Fish, whales and birds all appear at the same time - Wrong by tens of millions of years
Insects appear after birds, whales, etc - Wrong by hundreds of millions of years
Insects and other land animals appear at the same time - Wrong by hundreds of millions of years
Stars and sun appear after the Earth - Wrong by billions of years
Even if Genesis and reality shared a resemblance, you'd still need evidence to support the assertion that the reason for this was because of a supernatural agency.
Any other hilariously inept non-arguments you care to make on behalf of your faith?
With all due respect, no you don't.
Here's an actual fact: what you just stated is not fact. It is vacuous naked assertion predicated on ignorance.
Aman,
I didn't meet my demise on the 21st like you claimed. Whats the deal?
Dear bhsmte, In the end, you will see that ALL men live and die on the present 6th Day. The 6th Creative Day began when Jesus made the land creatures and brought them to Adam who named them. It will NOT end for at least another thousand years in man's time.
The word Day is best understood as Age and Today is the 6th Age in the Creation of the perfect Heaven, which will be totally complete at the end of this Day, and filled with EVERY person who will live there forever. Genesis 2:1
IF you don't believe me, then you must think that Jesus didn't tell Adam the Truth that he would surely die "in the Day" he disobeyed. Adam did die on the present 6th Day. IT's the ONLY way Jesus could have been telling the Truth. It's also the ONLY way the Devil could have been lying.
In Love,
Aman
Dear Eight Foot Manchild, Yes, I can.
Here it is. The first firmament, which God called heaven was made the SECOND Day. Genesis 1:6-8 This is the world in which God placed the first Earth, the Earth of Adam.
At the beginning of the THIRD Day, the LORD made other heavenS (Plural). Genesis 2:4 Our Cosmos, the 2nd Heaven was made and the 3rd Heaven was made at this time. I use Strong's Concordance for the meaning of the original Hebrew words.
*snip vacuous claptrap*
What I stated was FACT unless you can show HOW magical Evolution changed Apes into Humans from the outside of their bodies, which is what is ignorantly supposed.
No, you can't. Case in point:
Originally Posted by Aman777
Here it is. The first firmament, which God called heaven was made the SECOND Day. Genesis 1:6-8 This is the world in which God placed the first Earth, the Earth of Adam.First, you didn't provide any source to indicate this reading existed prior to the formulation of any modern multiverse hypothesis. I didn't expect you to, of course, because you can't.
At the beginning of the THIRD Day, the LORD made other heavenS (Plural). Genesis 2:4 Our Cosmos, the 2nd Heaven was made and the 3rd Heaven was made at this time. I use Strong's Concordance for the meaning of the original Hebrew words.
Secondly, this is not even analogous to modern multiverse hypotheses, and does not remotely indicate that the author(s) had any understanding of the subject or that their intent was to communicate what you've asserted. At the very best, what you have here is post-diction. Not prediction.
You are clearly under the impression that simply rattling off naked assertions is a substitute for argument. It is not. You actually have to substantiate your claims. Otherwise, your position can and will be dismissed out of hand.
Your accusations of ignorance are particularly amusing, in light of this:
You have demonstrated that you have not the slightest clue what the ToE is, let alone what a legitimate criticism of it would look like. This makes you extremely typical among creationists.
Unless you want to step outside your comfort zone and actually corroborate something you've said with reality. I dare you to find a single scientific source that claims 'apes turned into humans'. Go ahead. I'll wait.
you have offered NO idea HOW ancient men knew this thousands of years BEFORE Science.
It is you who is ignorant of God's Truth.
I suppose that all you have left is to call me names.
I expect that soon you will also claim that I'm nuts.
*snip vacuous claptrap*
False, since our children are being falsely taught we evolved from the common ancestor of Apes, and all the way back to the mysterious, unknown, common ancestor of ALL life.
Genesis shows us that we live in a Multiverse which today's Science is currently trying to confirm the Physics equations with show that we do live in a Multiverse.
You are the positive claimant. The burden of proof is therefor yours, not mine.
Dear Eight Foot Manchild, Congratulations on a nice dodge. I am more than happy to show you that God's Truth IS the One Truth and that it does agree, in every way, with every discovery of Science and History. IOW, you're about to get an education, unless you run away, like most Evols do.
To meet it, you would have to start by demonstrating that your reading of Genesis existed prior to any modern multiverse hypothesis. Otherwise, what you have is post-diction, not prediction. If you were to do this, you would have the beginnings of a legitimate argument, though you would still have to demonstrate supernatural agency.
You haven't done this (because you can't). All you have is a naked assertion. As such, I dismiss your non-argument out of hand.
FYI, I have been online for more than 17 years and I still have my first post. I wrote a book in the 80s, and I still have the original manuscripts. I wrote another book about 5 years ago and it is online. If you would like to see the evidence, just ask. I don't think it agrees with TOS for me to post it online.
You don't have truth. You have naked assertions.
The problem with your false accusation is that Jesus IS the Truth and He lives within me. Can you say the same? Or must we believe the assertions of an unregenerated mortal man's view, when compared to God's Holy Word? That is arrogant and self deceiving, since you are comparing your own feeble knowledge to God's.
More unsupported False accusations:>>Pointing out your ignorance of the ToE is a statement of fact, not an insult.
You don't have a clue what the ToE is, as demonstrated by your own words.
Thanks for coming out with your openly ad hominem argument. I expect such from Evols and that is WHY I try to always insult the object of their affection, the False ToE. It's the biggest Lie ever told, and it's being forced upon our children as FACT. Proponants of the Lie, that we evolved from the common ancestor of Apes, should be ashamed.
No, calling you crazy would give you an excuse for your ignorance. You have scientific resources literally at your fingertips. You have no excuse.
You don't even know what the ToE is. Your criticisms of it are therefor worthless, and can be dismissed out of hand.
Thanks. Now everyone can see that your only arguments are based on your hatred of God and anyone who believes in Him. So far, all you have demonstrated is your inability to actually debate the False ToE, which you obviously believe is ABOVE God's Truth. Right? Just so everyone can see your postiion with or against God's Holy Word?
To be dismissed out of hand by an unbeliever is normal for me. I've met many Godhaters online and debated with some of them for decades. In all that time NONE of those arrogant, all knowing, Evols, has been able to tell me these 2 things.
1. How and When evolution changed the descendants of the common ancestor of Ape into Humans.
2. An older Human city than those listed in Genesis 10 which records the first human cities built by Noah's great grandsons.
Can you? If not, tell us now, and avoid embarrassment later. God Bless you and have a nice Day.
In Love,
Aman
So you're back to criticizing science for not having all the answers? Like, "God of the Gaps" repeated yet again, because you never learn that this argument has never worked in its history?
Oh, look again, you deny that you're talking about evolution, but then you bring it up in the next paragraph.
The multiverse model is just one of many competing models of the universe, and if it were confirmed, it would destroy the God of the Gaps argument you so desperately cling onto.
And yet again you are cherry picking a few vague instances where Genesis sort of coincides with certain scientific theories and ignoring the many instances where it is so far, far, far, far off the mark. It's the same tactic astrologists and psychics use to lure in gullible customers.
Congratulations on a nice dodge.
I am more than happy to show you that God's Truth IS the One Truth and that it does agree, in every way, with every discovery of Science and History.
The problem with your false accusation is that Jesus IS the Truth and He lives within me.
Thanks for coming out with your openly ad hominem argument.
Thanks. Now everyone can see that your only arguments are based on your hatred of God
You're confused. You are the one shirking the burden of proof, not me.
You're welcome to continue making an example of yourself for those reading along. I suspect your definition of 'education', must like your definition of 'truth', consists of a parade of naked assertions.
I accuse you of making naked assertions, and your rebuttal is to... make a naked assertion. That's too pathetic to be funny.
That's not an ad hominem.
It's one thing to be able to name a logical fallacy. It's another thing to actually know what it means.
I haven't had to make an argument yet. You have literally done nothing whatsoever besides reiterate the same vacuous naked assertions over and over. As such, I can dismiss you out of hand. No argument necessary.
Thanks for posting the Atheist opinion.
I have no definition of Truth.
As you can see, I support my views with God's Holy Word.
It's a naked assertion ONLY to those who are perishing.
Again, the opinion of an UnBeliever
Beliefs such as yours are nothing more than Religion.
Do you also accept the False Religion of Evolutionism?
In Love,
Aman
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