• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Vene

In memory of ChordatesLegacy
Oct 20, 2007
4,155
319
Michigan
✟28,465.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Democrat
Actually there is, protein analysis. Living things have the protein cytochrome c whether they are plant, animal, or bacterium. But, it is different in each. This wouldn't be a big deal, except that proteins are formed directly from DNA, and as mutations accumulate it modifies proteins. It is possible to look at the proteins and trace back ancestry. Below is the amino acid sequence for cytochrome c for various organisms (link):


From this information it is possible to determine how related any two organisms are. It relies on the exact same logic that is used in paternity suits. Unless you think paternity testing in invalid, then there is no reason to think this is invalid.

Hey, look at that, plants and animals have a common ancestor. And you said there was no evidence. Learn some biology before you spout off such inanities.

It's not even like animal and plant cells are that different, especially compared to bacteria (link).

Notice how animals and plants share the nucleus, mitochondria, golgi complex, endoplasmic reticulum, chromosomes, and some organelles that aren't listed. There is no reason for these to be shared. Of those I listed only chromosomes are shared with bacteria, and even those are different. Plant and animal chromosome look alike, I bet you wouldn't be able to tell them apart on a karyotype, but bacteria chromosomes are circular.
 
Upvote 0

Corey

Veteran
Mar 7, 2002
2,874
156
50
Illinois
Visit site
✟26,487.00
Faith
Deist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Democrat

Actually, I'm referring to you. You ignored the quote I listed above. I know for a fact that you couldn't have missed it because what you quoted was below what I quoted.

That fact is that Palin is on record supporting teaching the two together and then apparently the next day (an aided) decided that her declared support for something blatantly illegal was a bad idea, so she issued a "clarification."
 
Upvote 0

soblessed53

Well-Known Member
Sep 4, 2005
15,568
810
North Central,OH.U.S.A.
✟19,686.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
US-Others
I once read or heard that even the intention to mislead/deceive is a lie,and Sarah Palin is also on record supporting "The Bridge To Nowhere",yet she continually says publicly now that she said "thanks but no thanks"!

I wouldn't have a problem with her saying that she changed her mind,we all do that,often. My problem is with her refusal to even admit that she ever was in support of The Bridge To Nowhere,instead she is deceptive,in trying to pretend she NEVER was,by deliberately lying by omission of stating her previous support.

Yeah, some change there would be with her and McCain!
 
Upvote 0