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In The Beginning: Order Or Chaos?

A dangerous teaching which has come up many times is that the world was in a state of chaos and from that chaos came out order, is this really true? The Bible tells us that it is not.

Now while darkness was upon the face of the deep before God called the Light: we forget that God is the Light and that in Him is the Light of Life: for God's Spirit was hovering over the waters which were under the darkness: therefore God was above both the darkness and the waters. We can deduce further from the account in Genesis that God had already separated Himself from the Darkness so, it was only natural that once God called the Light forth from His Body that He separated it from the Darkness. If we look at Light as Order and Darkness as Chaos then we see that this heretical teaching of order coming out of chaos is false as order can never bring about chaos nor, can chaos bring about order: like begets like according to nature: therefore Light cannot beget Darkness nor can Darkness beget Light. In my previous blog entry 'On the Logic of the Word' I explain that the only way non-gods could have been created by God without violating "like begets like" is through the Word w-o-r-d. By this I mean that the Word declared Himself to be God and is the origin of all words which exist (whether known or unknown): therefore the Word God created Light and Darkness through His Word. Now that being said one may rightly conclude that all things were eternal until God had subjected them to a finite state: namely through the sin of Adam and Eve which brought about sin and death into the world, thus corrupting all things. We see then that order could not have come about from chaos had not order first existed.

We have reached another expression of God's message to man: when He had created all things in six days and rested on the seventh day: all was Order. When Satan had rebelled in heaven He brought about Chaos in God's Kingdom: therefore He was cast from heaven to earth; and, God in anticipation of Satan's motives commanded Adam and Eve not to eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil: for Satan had already eaten from it with his men. Satan not repenting from his evil ways took the form of the serpent and caused Adam and Eve to eat of that forbidden fruit which brought about Chaos on earth: therefore God banished Adam and Eve from the garden of Eden to bring about Order in His heavenly throne and His garden Eden once more. However earth became the battle ground between Order and Chaos; Light and Darkness; Good and Evil; God and Satan. After many years passed God fulfilled His promise to Adam and Eve that He would send His Word to crush the head of the serpent: this was accomplished through the crucifixion, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ/Yeshua the Messiah who conquered sin and death. This was only the first battle which granted man the ability to order oursleves aright with God so that in the last battle between Order and Chaos: we will enter into the garden of Eden from which we were formerly banished forever while those who remained in Chaos are thrown alive in the burning lake of fire forever and ever; and, finally God will have effectively established His Kingdom on earth as He established It in heaven!

In conclusion all was Order and descended into Chaos: God has promised that all will be Order after the Day of Judgment where He will separate those who remained in His Order of Love from those who remained in The Enemy's Chaos of Hate: the latter suffering the second death in the burning lake of fire eternally dead; and, the former granted the second life in the cool lake of water eternally alive; and, God will establish His Kingodom on earth as it is in heaven. Water and Fire; Light and Darkness; Life and Death are before us: to which will our hands reach out for?