Ikuis said:
That was indeed my point. In your OP you talked about following Christianity, not Christ.
Oh, okay.
Ikuis said:
The nature of the universe that we perceive is simply too complex to be entirely accidental to discount such a greater persona.
I'm slightly hesitant to spark a potential philosophical or scientific debate, but what aspect of our universe necessitates intelligent design? Also, if our universe had a Creator, wouldn't this Creator be drastically more complicated than the universe? I am actually fairly agnostic about the possibility of something creating the universe, but if something was incredible enough to create our universe, imagine how complex that entity must be. If our universe requires a creator, why doesn't the creator require another creator and another and another?
A similar line of inquiry deals with infinite time as opposed to infinite creations. Basically, the universe couldn't have existed forever; thus, something had to create it. However, this reaches another epistemological dead end when we inquire why this proposed creator can exist forever, while the observable universe cannot.
With no evidence for whether the universe was created or not, I instead rely on logic conjecture, notably Occam's razor, to conclude that it's more likely that the universe has always existed, etc.
Ikuis said:
If one believes that humans are the highest form of life and intelligence then there is little point in looking any further.
That's me.
I'm a humanist.
Ikuis said:
So, I would like to ask you, what is it about Christ and Christianity that makes you not want to follow it?
Evaluating Christianity purely based on it's potential for good, applied correctly (very important), I think it has the ability to improve individuals and societies.
However, in a little personality test, I came up 90% logical-minded. Thus, for me, the question isn't really whether I WANT to believe something, it's just whatever I think is most likely to be correct. Based on my observations, I think the most logical position to take is obviously a lack of belief in any specific God or gods.
Finally, I think it's certainly possible to live a good life without Christ. After all, that's what I'm doing right now.
Actually, I would contend that it's easier to live a good life as an agnostic atheist than with most religions. Thus, what reason do I have to follow Christianity?
Notedstrangeperson said:
See, other religions - Islam, Buddhism, even Juadism - were headed by enlightened humans. Jesus on the other hand was the son of God.
No offense, but since I don't believe in Christianity to begin with, this difference is only a difference in beliefs and doesn't offer me any reason to prefer one religion over the other.
edit: Well, maybe that wasn't your intention.
Notedstrangeperson said:
I'm still trying to get my head round it, but what do you think?
Hmmm, what do you mean by, "the God inside us becomes stronger," and how do you know this?
Ikuis said:
Another difference in Christianity is that God came down to the level of His creation, to live as a human amongst humans, to share our feelings, elations, sufferings, weaknesses.
Oh.
Wait, huh? Isn't this the same difference? Jesus?