JohnR7 said:
Don't be so sure that the people who gave us our Bible were "primitive thinker". Very few people today can hold a candle to them. They gained far more understanding than the average person today could ever hope to gain. That does not mean we can not obtain what they were able to obtain. It is just that few people do.
Is this a joke? Most of what we know, came AFTER this time and actually VERY recently. These were superstitious desert dwellers. Their thinking was VERY primitive. This is not to say they were stupid people, I am saying they were interpreting events around them with what they did know, which was - very little. When you say "understanding" you must be talking in a philosophical sense, based on your belief system, not modern understanding, correct?
JohnR7 said:
Of course Adam and Eve had understanding from the beginning, but they lost it. So it has been a long slow road for mankind to get it all back again. Jesus came to pay the price to so we could once again have what Adam and Eve lost.
John, the story of Adam and Eve is just that: A story. It is a verbal illustration of life. Please note how they were FORBID from eating from the tree of Knowledge, why do you suppose that is, John? A long slow road to get what back? The knowledge of how to cover your pubic area with a fig leaf? OR are you proposing the knew Quantum mechanics, Biology, Chemistry, etc.. Are you proposing they knew this and we are "re-discovering" this? Also please note Adam and Eve are Anglo names. I am not familiar with anyone in the Middle East names Adam nor Eve, correct me if I am wrong. Where Christians claim The Garden of Eden is/was is Southern Iraq. John I could write a volume on this but please answer me this one/multi-part question. And do not use the Christian cop-out: "Some things will always just be a mystery."
You do not believe in Evolution, correct? So how is it that 3 major races of people, SO vastly different came from, one mother and one father????? Moreover, if they were first man and first woman who in the world were all those other people!??- On Earth, at the same time and BEFORE them, since you claim Adam and Eve were here 6,000 years ago??? John, we have native American (Mongoloid origin) skulls dated at 9,000 years old. I have had the honor of holding and touching one of these skulls. I assure you, it is/was quite human and has/had the characteristics of the typical Asian skull. So how could Adam and Eve produce children that would have adapted and evolved so quickly and some EVEN before themselves, ESPECIALLY, in light of the fact that you think evolution is "nonsense"???????
JohnR7 said:
Now that you have gained what man has to offer to you, perhaps you would like to look into what God can teach you. It goes far beyond anything man could ever come up with.
I have "looked into" it. I have read the Bible TWICE and tried several denominations of Christianity. It was an "induced fit", since, I refused to check my brain at the door. I let my mind perform natural selection of the data in my brain. Since, I had no logical information other than a STORY to back it up with, it was naturally excluded from the Logics part of my brain and was shuttled over to the myth compartment, were it lives peacefully, with The Easter Bunny, Hey Diddle Diddle AND Santa Clause!! Don't ever assume that people are not Christians because they have "Yet to see the Wisdom." I am an EX-Christian who sees the ignorances, prejudices and HUBRIS (false pride, for you kids at home).
1 Cor. 3:18-21
JohnR7 said:
Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. [19] For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, "He catches the wise in their own craftiness"; [20] and again, "The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile." [21] Therefore let no one boast in men. For all things are yours:
YES JOHN, let NO ONE deceive himself. Practice what you preach.
