White 'survivalist' gunman shoots black Oklahoma police chief 4 times — and walks fre

[SummerMadness]

White 'survivalist' gunman shoots black Oklahoma police chief 4 times — and walks free

A Sentinel, Oklahoma man who shot the town’s police chief four times on Thursday morning was allowed to walk free after questioning.

According to NewsOK.com, Police Chief Louis Ross was shot in the chest three times and once in the arm while responding to a bomb threat at a private residence. He survived with only minor injuries thanks to a borrowed bulletproof vest that he had put on only moments before.

The incident began with a 911 call around 4 a.m. on Thursday, said Sentinel Mayor Sam Dlugonski. A caller reported that a bomb had been planted in Sentinel Community Action Center, home of the local Head Start program.

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Chief Ross and deputies from the Washita County sheriff’s office traced the call to Horton’s residence on State Route 4. Officers entered the residence by breaking down the door.

Encountering no one in the first room they searched, Ross proceeded into a second bedroom, where Horton shot him four times.

The color of justice...

 

[iluvatar5150]

His release seemed to be because he claimed that the officers failed to identify themselves. If that's true, then I'd say that the dept did the right thing by letting him go.

Questions remain after Sentinel police chief is shot, detained man is released | NewsOK.com

 

[Aldebaran]

His release seemed to be because he claimed that the officers failed to identify themselves. If that's true, then I'd say that the dept did the right thing by letting him go.

Questions remain after Sentinel police chief is shot, detained man is released | NewsOK.com

This is what is bound to happen when the police break down doors to peoples' homes and invade with assault weapons. What is a homeowner to think? Are we supposed to fear for our lives and take defensive action when our homes are being broken into, or are we to automatically assume that when our homes are being violently broken into that way, it must be the police (our public servants)?

Do the police hesitate to defend themselves when they "fear for their lives"? Are their actions excused on that basis almost every time when they kill someone who turned out to not be a threat? If the police are our servants, why do they get away with this, but citizens in their own homes are expected to submit to being attacked?

 

[He is Risen 72]

Funny how some people get all bent out of shape when clothing is used to identify a person as a gangster thug, but have no problem being able to tell a survivalist by his clothing choices.

 

[SummerMadness]

Funny how some people get all bent out of shape when clothing is used to identify a person as a gangster thug, but have no problem being able to tell a survivalist by his clothing choices.

A thug is defined by his actions, not his clothes. Thug has also become a code word for race, hence very few whit people being labeled as thug based on their clothes unless they are considered "dressed as black."

In addition, the man was not labeled a survivalist because of his clothing, it was because of what he did and said. Th only description given is that he wore a lot of black clothing.

 

[Red Fox]

Perhaps it would wise to first find out all the facts of this case before jumping to conclusions and making a false judgment call. Just a suggestion.

 

[SuperCloud]

From the article in post #1.

Officers entered the residence by breaking down the door. Encountering no one in the first room they searched, Ross proceeded into a second bedroom, where Horton shot him four times.

Hmm... I'm surprised Horton didn't get shot several times. Ross must have entered the second room by himself. I'm hoping he was not entering with a cop behind him who froze and did not enter once hearing the gun shots.

It's dangerous being the first person to enter through a door or the first one to enter a room you're clearing.

You can't really tell what transpired from the article though. If I'm the second man through the door (ideally at least two people should clear a room) I'm shooting the man or woman firing on the cop that entered immediately before me.

 

[South Bound]

White 'survivalist' gunman shoots black Oklahoma police chief 4 times — and walks free
The color of justice...

You neglected to mention the part where he shot the cop because the cop burst into his home in the middle of the night.

Kind of an important detail to leave out, don't you think?

 

[nightflight]

Perhaps it would wise to first find out all the facts of this case before jumping to conclusions and making a false judgment call. Just a suggestion.

If we did that we couldn't get all righteously outraged!

 

[Red Fox]

If we did that we couldn't get all righteously outraged!

True...

 

[JustMeSee]

I am curious about the bomb threat. More to come?

 

[Autumnleaf]

Maybe the cop should have used the door bell first.

 

[NightHawkeye]

You neglected to mention the part where he shot the cop because the cop burst into his home in the middle of the night.

Kind of an important detail to leave out, don't you think?

Details, details ...

 

[seven2014]

I am curious about the bomb threat. More to come?

And don't forget the human effort factor, there have been cases where cops have went to the wrong address.

 

[Protocol11]

awesome! glad he got released. its good for him that he didnt kill the cop, but it would have been good for society if he had. if he did make a bomb threat, then he needs to be charged accordingly. but the cops these days are the most dangerous and prolific terrorists. even worse than the islamists

 

[Aldebaran]

Maybe the cop should have used the door bell first.

What? And not use their battering ram on the door and make a "dynamic entry" with fancy assault rifles? If they just used the doorbell, they wouldn't be able to justify spending all those tax dollars on fancy tactical gear for "officer safety" (or "public safety", depending on who they want to impress).

But it's true that simple methods like ringing the doorbell and waiting for the guy to answer it in order to grab him would be much cheaper and safer for everyone than acting like a violent home invader, which only begets a violent response.

Also, this guy was assumed to be the one who had made a bomb-threat call. It has now been determined that he didn't do it: http://gawker.com/white-man-shoots-black-police-chief-four-times-and-walk-1680254831

 

[Protocol11]

he should sue the police for everything he can get and make public fools of them

 

[Aldebaran]

he should sue the police for everything he can get and make public fools of them

The police have something called "qualified immunity" that prevent them from being sued, even if they kill someone. Qualified immunity | Wex Legal Dictionary / Encyclopedia | LII / Legal Information Institute

 

[nightflight]

Was this like a swatting? How did the call come from the residence that was raided?

 

[Aldebaran]

Was this like a swatting? How did the call come from the residence that was raided?

This is pretty scary! People are able to "spoof" phone calls (I believe that's what they call it when you're able to call someone and have the person's caller ID show some other number). It actually happened to me one time. I was at home minding my own business when I got a call from the police department asking me why I called 911 and hung up. I told them I didn't call them at all. After they argued with me for awhile, they ended the call. Then a few minutes later, they called me again accusing me of doing it a second time. I just kept telling them that I didn't do it. I didn't know what else I could say about it. After that call ended, maybe 5 minutes went by and then the cops were at my door demanding entry into the home and then they went around the house to see if anyone else was there and if anything was out of order. Nothing and nobody was found. After further accusing me of calling 911 and hanging up, they told me not to do it anymore and then left.

This all happened about 17 years ago, when the internet and computers weren't nearly as advanced as they are now, so I can imagine it's even easier for someone to "spoof" 911, making it look like someone else is making the call. Telemarketing scammers also can spoof, making them appear to be the IRS or your bank in order to trick you into thinking it's a legit call. I just hope SWAT teams and the police in general will start taking this into consideration before unnecessarily victimizing someone, possibly even taking lives in the process. If they would actually start considering people to be innocent until proven guilty, it would be a good starting point.