What do you think of Putin? Did you know ...

[michellemariebru]

Did you know he is Christian? Has a testimony?

 

[tulc]

So is President Obama.
tulc(is just sayn')

 

[michellemariebru]

Well, the difference between Obama and Putin is quite huge. Putin, has been emphasizing the importance of Christian values in society. Along with that he has banned propaganda of homosexuality to children. He has been stating the importance of Christian values, while Obama has been desecrating it.

AND as for Obama?
I don't if he is Muslim, or what - but he sure doesn't represent Christian values.
But from his tone in his speeches- I think it's pretty obvious he is Muslim.

 

[tulc]

Well, the difference between Obama and Putin is quite huge.

I agree one is the President of a of a country that is accountable to the laws and the checks and balances of his country and the other is is the head of Russia.

Putin, has been emphasizing the importance of Christian values in society.

To be more accurate he is cloaking the things he does by claiming they're for "Christian Values".
tulc(see the difference?)

 

[michellemariebru]

Thanks for sharing your thought! At first, when I saw his speeches I was like WOW look at Putin, but my family members claim that he is really not a good person. ( Of course who am I to judge, - I can't say he is or isn't Christian,) I like the message he gives in his speeches, but I was unsure if it was a cloak, like you said. Again, thanks for your thoughts, I'm very curious about other Christian's opinion on it.

 

[Biblicist]

As a Christian I would say that I am very impressed with Putin as he has been one of the very few leaders who has been able to demonstrate an ability to both lead and inspire a nation. Having observed his speeches on Youtube over the past few years I have come to the conclusion that he is a very confident leader who will not tolerate the New World order of the West.

 

[Job8]

Did you know he is Christian? Has a testimony?

If Putin is a Christian, then Stalin must have been a Pope.

 

[Stan Ley]

If Putin is a Christian, then Stalin must have been a Pope.

Stalin would make a good pope

 

[michellemariebru]

If Putin is a Christian, then Stalin must have been a Pope.

lolll good point

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

Consider what Russia was like before Putin...

 

[ken777]

Did you know he is Christian?

Putin certainly upholds traditional Christian values far better than Obama does.

 

[imind]

Consider what Russia was like before Putin...

ok, now what?

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

The Russians remember...

...that's why 90 percent of them back him.

 

[tulc]

The Russians remember...

...that's why 90 percent of them back him.

That's probably because they never read this article:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/06/vladimir-putin-15-ways-he-changed-russia-world

Despite a state campaign against corruption, Putin’s Russia has failed to shake off accusations of being fundamentally dishonest. In 2014, Russia was ranked 136 out of 175 in Transparency International’s corruption perceptions index, down from 127 in 2013 and 133 in 2012. The Organised Crime and Corruption Reporting Project also named Putin its “person of the year” after its investigations found that he had engaged with the mafia to create what it called a “military-industrial-political-criminal” complex to launder money and promote his interests abroad, including in the transfer of weapons to rebels in eastern Ukraine.

Although little information is available on his personal wealth, many expect that Putin himself has benefited from state corruption. Allegations have swirled for years that an extravagant palace being built on the Black Sea coast – reportedly guarded by the presidential secret service and now owned by a Putin confidant – secretly belongs to him and was paid for with embezzled funds.

tulc(knows how some people love a man on a horse wearing no shirt)

 

[ViaCrucis]

Well, the difference between Obama and Putin is quite huge. Putin, has been emphasizing the importance of Christian values in society. Along with that he has banned propaganda of homosexuality to children. He has been stating the importance of Christian values, while Obama has been desecrating it.

AND as for Obama?
I don't if he is Muslim, or what - but he sure doesn't represent Christian values.
But from his tone in his speeches- I think it's pretty obvious he is Muslim.

Obama may not match the conservative Evangelical views of what is a Christian, but conservative Evangelicals don't define what is and isn't Christian and who is or isn't a Christian.

By the way, Obama also has a testimony of going from an atheist to a Christian, he was raised without religion (his mother is an atheist) and he was an atheist up and into college. He became a Christian in his early 20's.

Further, he's never shied away from talking about his faith, he just hasn't made it the forefront of his administration--something I think is to his credit. I have more respect for a politician who is a Christian than a "Christian politician".

Putin's regime is a dictatorship that is silencing dissenting voices.

I don't believe it is Christian to exert political force to silence, hurt, or imprison people who are different. I do believe it is Christian to aim to create a more compassionate and just society where the weakest and most fragile members of society are retained their basic civil rights and can survive and thrive.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

Putin certainly upholds traditional Christian values far better than Obama does.

I wouldn't call the Spanish Inquisition "traditional Christian values" but I suppose that depends on what we mean by "traditional'.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[mindlight]

The Russians remember...

...that's why 90 percent of them back him.

From a money, power or prestige point of view he has restored Russia after the disaster of the Yeltsin years.

From a spiritual point of view the central communal role of the Communist party and KGB has increasingly been replaced by Russian orthodoxy. This is a healthy trend and Putin has changed with it. On the gay marriage issue Russia is more righteous than the West but on something like abortion it is even more permissive. Putin himself is a divorcee and a wounded man in charge of a wounded country.

That said he might be a Christian and even Obama might be. He reads like a man who listens to God but has started towards him from far away while Obama seems to ignore Him until he has no other choice. Obamas Middle Eastern policy which has led to a genocide of the Christian church is the personification of foolishness.

 

[witness of G]

I think Putin is a modern Constantine Emperor recognizing that Christianity is useful for his power. Obama rather to be a Muslim is a progressive secularist apologist of Islam and ally of Muslims because progressive Secularists are anti-Christian like the Islamists.

 

[Albion]

Thanks for sharing your thought! At first, when I saw his speeches I was like WOW look at Putin, but my family members claim that he is really not a good person. ( Of course who am I to judge, - I can't say he is or isn't Christian,) I like the message he gives in his speeches, but I was unsure if it was a cloak, like you said. Again, thanks for your thoughts, I'm very curious about other Christian's opinion on it.

He probably is a Christian. And he at least doesn't seem to make it a point to suppress Christianity. That doesn't make him the best example of a Christian but, then again, who among us is?

 

[Thunder Peel]

I see very little evidence to suggest that either Putin or Obama are Christians. Putin is a thug and Obama is a self-centered control freak. Neither particularly strike me as genuinely believing in Christ and His Word.