What do you believe (creation/evolution)?

[chris4243]

I thought it might be interesting to do a poll to see what people believe.

 

[Doveaman]

I thought it might be interesting to do a poll to see what people believe.

Why?

 

[Split Rock]

I thought it might be interesting to do a poll to see what people believe.

F.Y.I. Two of your choices are the same.

 

[wensdee]

Creationists are creationists because their parents are/were creationists, they believe what their parents believe,
some choice.

 

[chris4243]

F.Y.I. Two of your choices are the same.

Oops. I added a new option and then tried to move everything down. The extra one was supposed to be guided evolution, but no special creation.

 

[AV1611VET]

I voted: God specially created each kind, and there was a global flood besides.

But I have to ask: What does a global flood have to do with the creation event?

 

[wensdee]

What does a global flood have to do with the creation event?

Both of them are completely off the wall?

AV when are you going to bow to reason and make your God proud of you?

 

[Phred]

I don't "believe" any of these. I accept evolution as this is what the evidence leads us to.

 

[Split Rock]

Creationists are creationists because their parents are/were creationists, they believe what their parents believe,
some choice.

Hey consol. You never give up on that rehash, do you?

 

[Split Rock]

I don't "believe" any of these. I accept evolution as this is what the evidence leads us to.

I think the choices are adequate for a simple poll... lets not nitpick.

 

[AV1611VET]

Both of them are completely off the wall?

They should be -- look what they're being compared to.

AV when are you going to bow to reason and make your God proud of you?

I'll bow to reason when I go carnal; and unlike some children who have to live up to the standards their parents put on their "good genes" to achieve, I don't have to 'make God proud of me' -- He loves me as I am.

 

[chris4243]

I don't "believe" any of these. I accept evolution as this is what the evidence leads us to.

Then you also believe it.

In any case, I wrote the poll options as statements of facts and asked which of these statements of fact you believe is the most accurate. I had intended the wording to make everyone comfortable; those who say they "believe" have that in the poll option, those who claim to "know" have that in the answers.

If you like we can have a contest about who is more certain of their answer and how that makes them more right (or not).

 

[chris4243]

It occurs to me that one of my options applies both to people who believe in God but only claim faith and not evidence, and to atheists. Oh well.

 

[AV1611VET]

It occurs to me that one of my options applies both to people who believe in God but only claim faith and not evidence, and to atheists. Oh well.

Don't worry about it --

 

[plindboe]

Then you also believe it.

Indeed, according to most definitions believe is to: be convinced of something; to accept a claim; to hold something as true. It's popular among some evolutionists though to say "I don't believe, I accept", which makes me facepalm every time.

In any case, I wrote the poll options as statements of facts and asked which of these statements of fact you believe is the most accurate. I had intended the wording to make everyone comfortable; those who say they "believe" have that in the poll option, those who claim to "know" have that in the answers.

If you like we can have a contest about who is more certain of their answer and how that makes them more right (or not).

I think your poll was finely worded. Of course people will always complain no matter how a poll is phrased.

Peter

 

[Split Rock]

Indeed, according to most definitions believe is to: be convinced of something; to accept a claim; to hold something as true. It's popular among some evolutionists though to say "I don't believe, I accept", which makes me facepalm every time.

I think the reason for this is that creationists like to claim "belief" in God or creationism is the same as "belief" in evolution. If we say we "accept" evolution, that differentiates the differences better.

 

[plindboe]

I think the reason for this is that creationists like to claim "belief" in God or creationism is the same as "belief" in evolution. If we say we "accept" evolution, that differentiates the differences better.

It ignores the similarities as well. We might have come to believe based on very different circumstances, but we are all convinced that we're right about something, and that's what the word "belief" accurately denotes.

It bothers me when people redefine words due to agendas, because it tends to make communication needlessly more difficult and will likely end up creating confusion. I've seen it plenty among fanatics on the internet to have developed a distaste for it, and it doesn't appeal to me more just because "my" side starts doing it.

Peter

 

[Split Rock]

It bothers me when people redefine words due to agendas, because it tends to make communication needlessly more difficult and will likely end up creating confusion. I've seen it plenty among fanatics on the internet to have developed a distaste for it, and it doesn't appeal to me more just because "my" side starts doing it.

Peter

You're probably right, but it gets tiring to constantly deal with "we both believe so its the same" over and over, even if it is a deliberate tactic.

 

[SoliDeoGloria12]

Interesting poll. Either one believes the Word of God, or he/she doesn't. We walk by faith and not by sight. I cannot fathom anyone calling him/herself a Christian and not believing God's Word. His Word is revelatory and as such, more is revealed as we move further into the faith. By not accepting basic tenets of the faith, the walk is circular and to me, irrelevant. Jesus Christ is the Word made flesh. To reject the Word, is to reject Him.

 

[wensdee]

Interesting poll. Either one believes the Word of God, or he/she doesn't. We walk by faith and not by sight. I cannot fathom anyone calling him/herself a Christian and not believing God's Word. His Word is revelatory and as such, more is revealed as we move further into the faith. By not accepting basic tenets of the faith, the walk is circular and to me, irrelevant. Jesus Christ is the Word made flesh. To reject the Word, is to reject Him.

Who told you that?