What about the 'art' in nature?

[TagliatelliMonster]

That door swings both ways.

Sure. This is why it is important to be clear and avoid ambiguity.
It rather depends on the setting as well.

Among academia, it is perfectly fine to refer to the make up of a body as "the design of the human body". Not a single biologist or geneticist will take to mean that the author is implying a "designer". They all will understand it to mean "natural design" without intent or planning, but rather purely in context of patterns, order and function.

On forums like this though, it is adviced to be carefull with using such words.

Context. It matters.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Moon goddesses are types of Lucifer. It was the rebellion of Lucifer that brought the original destruction to the surface of the earth.

What about sun gods? Again, where is all this in your bible?

 

[HitchSlap]

The moon represents the dark side, the cause of all destruction.

That's ridiculous.

 

[juvenissun]

Some parts of nature are beautiful. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

When an artist -- Ansel Adams, for instance -- takes a photograph of a part of nature, then the photograph is art.

Beauty is in the eyes of HUMAN. But not in the eyes of animals.
Do you still insist that you are a kind of animal?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Do you still insist that you are a kind of animal?

Of course, human beings are a kind of animal.

 

[juvenissun]

HD was formed about 14,000 years ago by a glacier during the last ice age. The moon had nothing to do with it.

Do you know an article which said that? I am kind of doubt it.

 

[juvenissun]

Of course, human beings are a kind of animal.

Very very bad classification (grade F-).
Human can appreciate art. Human should be separated from all other animals in classification.

 

[HitchSlap]

Do you know an article which said that? I am kind of doubt it.

It's common knowledge.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Sure. This is why it is important to be clear and avoid ambiguity.
It rather depends on the setting as well.

Among academia, it is perfectly fine to refer to the make up of a body as "the design of the human body". Not a single biologist or geneticist will take to mean that the author is implying a "designer". They all will understand it to mean "natural design" without intent or planning, but rather purely in context of patterns, order and function.

On forums like this though, it is adviced to be carefull with using such words.

Context. It matters.

There's always a larger context.

 

[Cearbhall]

Science denies design in nature. What about art? To me as an observer nature is as much art as science. Thoughts?

"Art" does not objectively exist and is not indicative of a designer. It's just an idea we came up with.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

What about sun gods? Again, where is all this in your bible?

Sun worship is another form of idolatry.
Anything other than the true God is referred to as "gods", small 'g'. This includes sun worship.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

"Art" does not objectively exist and is not indicative of a designer. It's just an idea we came up with.

You don't see art, or design, but you see evolution. Curious.

 

[AV1611VET]

"Art" does not objectively exist and is not indicative of a designer. It's just an idea we came up with.

God says this about Lucifer ...

Ezekiel 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Ezekiel 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Sounds like art to me.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

That's ridiculous.

We have more evidence for this than for evolution.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

God says this about Lucifer ...

Ezekiel 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Ezekiel 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Sounds like art to me.

And I'm guessing that this creature would be universally regarded as beautiful, which flies in the face of 'subjective' opinion in that regard.

There is a near universal standard of human beauty as well. I can visit any ethnicity on earth and pick out the pretty girls and handsome men, and so can they.

 

[Cearbhall]

You don't see art, or design, but you see evolution. Curious.

No, I don't. How would I "see" evolution? I'm not thousands of years old.

 

[AV1611VET]

How would I "see" evolution?

Through the eyes of faith.

Hebrews 11:27 By faith [Moses] forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Very very bad classification (grade F-).
Human can appreciate art. Human should be separated from all other animals in classification.

See, you think humans are animals, too!

And yes humans are classified as Homo sapiens. This separates them from all other animals.

North American beavers build dams out of sticks that they live in. They are separated from all other animals by being classified as Castor canadensis.

 

[HitchSlap]

We have more evidence for this than for evolution.

I'm unimpressed with how little you know about ToE.

 

[HitchSlap]

God says this about Lucifer ...

Ezekiel 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Ezekiel 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Sounds like art to me.

Sounds like the treament for a death-metal video.