Was the american revolution a just war?

[Sammy-San]

Im not complaining about what the founding fathers did, because America wouldnt be what it is today without their actions, but if you analyze their actions from an honest perspective, you can tell it wasnt right.

They basically used violence to rebel against authority because they disagreed with the policies of the British. They were basically terrorists. Their actions were not morally justifiable from a biblical perspective.

 

[Archie the Preacher]

Im not complaining about what the founding fathers did, because America wouldnt be what it is today without their actions, but if you analyze their actions from an honest perspective, you can tell it wasnt right.

This coupling of statements is very close to saying you think the action was really wrong, but you stop short of saying that because it benefits you.

That is very wrong.

They basically used violence to rebel against authority because they disagreed with the policies of the British. They were basically terrorists. Their actions were not morally justifiable from a biblical perspective.

Tell you what Sam. Do some actual study on the Revolutionary War and NOT the politically correct, revisionist version proclaimed by the 'Progressive' Left. Then do some study in the Bible about 'authority' and the limits of 'authority' from a Divine perspective.

Then perhaps no one will have to waste more time on this.

 

[Sammy-San]

This coupling of statements is very close to saying you think the action was really wrong, but you stop short of saying that because it benefits you.

That is very wrong.

Tell you what Sam. Do some actual study on the Revolutionary War and NOT the politically correct, revisionist version proclaimed by the 'Progressive' Left. Then do some study in the Bible about 'authority' and the limits of 'authority' from a Divine perspective.

Then perhaps no one will have to waste more time on this.

So youre saying the British werent legitimate authority just because the colonists thought they were unjust?

 

[paul becke]

I think some Americans are regretting it.

 

[Sammy-San]

I think some Americans are regretting it.

What makes you think that?

 

[ViaCrucis]

That depends on whether you ask an American person or a British person.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Archie the Preacher]

Mr. Becke, how many British subjects would want us back?

 

[Archie the Preacher]

So youre saying the British werent legitimate authority just because the colonists thought they were unjust?

No, Sam. I'm saying YOU need to find out the facts of the matter.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

No, Sam. I'm saying YOU need to find out the facts of the matter.

Archie,

I know you're a smart guy, and I respect you, but some Christians might be critical because they've read or viewed a 'different set' of sources and have thus reached different conclusions. As far as they know, they have looked at the facts of 'the matter.'

Who is to say 'who' the correct sources are? Those with a more traditional, modernist, Republican flavor, or instead those that appeal to a post-modernist, Democrat, source critical approach? Or somewhere in between?

My point is that the acquiring and understanding of the 'facts' requires a lot of time and work, as well as a willingness to look at more than 'one' of many angles. So, while I appreciate the work of all those who've made the effort to make this nation great, at the end of day, the nature of all of this is still not so clear.

Peace,
2PhiloVoid

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

it was for money. if history is checked, discover that the corporations and banks and so on , AFTER the war was supposedly won by the states, CONTINUED sending the profits and taxes to the queen or the bank in englind....

the 'freedom' was for show, temporary and artificial - the umbilical cord wasn't ever cut....

Im not complaining about what the founding fathers did, because America wouldnt be what it is today without their actions, but if you analyze their actions from an honest perspective, you can tell it wasnt right.

They basically used violence to rebel against authority because they disagreed with the policies of the British. They were basically terrorists. Their actions were not morally justifiable from a biblical perspective.

 

[Sammy-San]

it was for money. if history is checked, discover that the corporations and banks and so on , AFTER the war was supposedly won by the states, CONTINUED sending the profits and taxes to the queen or the bank in englind....

the 'freedom' was for show, temporary and artificial - the umbilical cord wasn't ever cut....

Why would the US sent money to England if we were at war with them?

 

[GenetoJean]

I dont believe the question can be answered as asked. There were just parts to the whole action and there were unjust parts.

 

[Albion]

Im not complaining about what the founding fathers did, because America wouldnt be what it is today without their actions, but if you analyze their actions from an honest perspective, you can tell it wasnt right.

They basically used violence to rebel against authority because they disagreed with the policies of the British. They were basically terrorists. Their actions were not morally justifiable from a biblical perspective.

They were not terrorists. Let's get that straight before saying anything more.

And they were not necessarily rebelling against a just authority. Had the government of George III not violated its own principles in the case of the American colonies, it is entirely possible that there would not have been a war.

 

[Sammy-San]

They were not terrorists. Let's get that straight before saying anything more.

And they were not necessarily rebelling against a just authority. Had the government of George III not violated its own principles in the case of the American colonies, it is entirely possible that there would not have been a war.

How does authority being unjust justify rebellion? The book of Romans doesnt only say to obey fair authority.

 

[Stan Ley]

the 'freedom' was for show, temporary and artificial - the umbilical cord wasn't ever cut....

I thought it was until the Federal Reserve Act of 1913

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

How does authority being unjust justify rebellion? The book of Romans doesnt only say to obey fair authority.

yes, well, if you want to do what the Creator says to do , well, then, it sure is different that the world and christians most places do.

the Creator says plainly in His Word, written, unchanged,
for slaves to obey their masters as if obeying JESUS HIMSELF.
yes.
any who doubt? . no worries. it is still written. read it.

of course, women rebel a lot, and are taught it is okay, but that's way too much to take up on a site where some women are allowed to post what they want without censure or discipline... (ouch!)... (p.s. men too!) (remember, this site is "for unbelievers" (somehow?) ) .....



anyway, does anyone ever bother to read all of the bible any more ? so many posts are just redundant errors because someone just didn't bother to read the bible.

go figure....

oh, yeah, just reading, and studying, and phD's, and th..logy, and group doctkins, don't make something either known, understood, nor true.

"unless the Father in heaven grants it, it is not received."
and
"blessed .... because flesshhh and blood have not revealed this.... "(no amount of study)....

and
"because you think in them you find eternal life..." well, "here I Am, and you reject Me" Yahushua said. (in the Bible!) COOL!

 

[Albion]

How does authority being unjust justify rebellion?

Well, that's the issue when discussing "just wars." If there are any such things as "just" wars, opposition to illegal or unjust, undemocratic administrations would seem to qualify. And if there is no such thing as a just war, then pacifism is the only permissible course of action for Christians, no matter how desirable it might be to free the slaves, halt genocide, or etc. Which side of that issue do you think is the correct one??