Want to read criticism of EO belief/practice.

[ProScribe]

I would happy to read criticisms of EO practice/belief.

 

[Rick Otto]

Superlative claims.
Too much get-up & gear.
Too authority & obediance emphasis heavy for my taste,
but then large organizations get into crowd control.
That's my personal general criticism.
Their sotoriology, sacramentology, & some of their ecclesiology is
also unacceptable to me. I don't have enough time for liturgy. I was
force fed enough of that growing up in parochial schools.
No offense intended.

 

[Ortho_Cat]

can u expand on the first two points, RO?

 

[Lion King]

Criticism:

• erroneously thinking that eternal life is bestowed by partaking in the LORD's supper.

 

[Standing Up]

I would happy to read criticisms of EO practice/belief.

Why?

 

[Ortho_Cat]

Why?

why not?

 

[Ortho_Cat]

Criticism:

• erroneously thinking that eternal life is bestowed by partaking in the LORD's supper.

why is this erroneous? it's biblical...

 

[Standing Up]

Why?

why not?

why is this erroneous? it's biblical...

That's why and why not.

Just seeing what the OPer has in mind.

 

[Kristos]

they eat too much baklava.

 

[Lion King]

why is this erroneous? it's biblical...

No, the Scriptures never mentions anything like that. The LORD's supper in done in remembrance of Jesus Christ: to announce His death till He returns.

 

[Ortho_Cat]

No, the Scriptures never mentions anything like that. The LORD's supper in done in remembrance of Jesus Christ: to announce His death till He returns.

sounds pretty clear to me...

Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you."

 

[squint]

I have a very real conscience problem with the whole iconography thing. Seems like a lot of fancy footwork to justify what is to me, in my own conscience, idolatry.

This matter hit me pretty hard in the RCC when on Ash Weds. the congregants including myself had to bow down and kiss the tiny little feet of a 4 foot bronze statue of Jesus held by two little kids.

I just couldn't handle that afterwards. I was so convicted within with guilt for idol worship.

Never again.

s

 

[Lion King]

sounds pretty clear to me...

Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you."

So, why did some people die after unworthily partaking in the LORD's supper? According to you, shouldn't the LORD's supper bestow eternal life upon sinners, not take it away?

 

[Ortho_Cat]

I have a very real conscience problem with the whole iconography thing. Seems like a lot of fancy footwork to justify what is to me, in my own conscience, idolatry.

This matter hit me pretty hard in the RCC when on Ash Weds. the congregants including myself had to kiss the feet of a little 4 foot bronze statue of Jesus held up by two little kids.

I just couldn't handle that afterwards. I was so convicted within with guilt for idol worship.

Never again.

s

so what specifically do you have against iconography? do you think it is ok to depict jesus, the saints, etc in visible form?

 

[squint]

so what specifically do you have against iconography? do you think it is ok to depict jesus, the saints, etc in visible form?

Personally speaking my conscience told me it was wrong to bow down to a tiny little statue of Jesus and kiss it's feet. I don't care how much spin is applied to the matter, my own conscience is the directive.

I have a similar conviction about hypnotism. I won't watch or participate in those things.

I can not do iconography 'in faith' therefore it is a sin to me.

s

 

[Rick Otto]

can u expand on the first two points, RO?

Superlative claims:
"One True Cburch"

Too much get-up & gear:
Othrworldly dress & ornate buildings.

 

[Nanopants]

Firstly, I don't know if this is officially an EO belief but I'm having a hard time with the doctrine of impassibility. To suggest we can't influence God, for better or for worse, I could never agree with that.

Secondly, there's too much emphasis on the material aspect of the Church. Yes I am one of those nutty spiritual types that thinks the One True Church can't be confined by walls or rules for that matter.

they eat too much baklava.

Thirdly, the baklava shortage here on the outside is reprehensible.

 

[ProScribe]

Why?

To study and learn what other Christians say about EO practice/belief.

 

[ProScribe]

I have a very real conscience problem with the whole iconography thing. Seems like a lot of fancy footwork to justify what is to me, in my own conscience, idolatry.

This matter hit me pretty hard in the RCC when on Ash Weds. the congregants including myself had to bow down and kiss the tiny little feet of a 4 foot bronze statue of Jesus held by two little kids.

I just couldn't handle that afterwards. I was so convicted within with guilt for idol worship.

Never again.

s

What are idols? don't know.

 

[SolomonVII]

Firstly, I don't know if this is officially an EO belief but I'm having a hard time with the doctrine of impassibility. To suggest we can't influence God, for better or for worse, I could never agree with that.

I am not sure if it is EO or not either, but the does seem to be the tendency to circle the wagons when it coems to the EO. When one member says it it so, nary another EO soul will disagree.

It reminds me of a church that has turned inward into its traditions, and become exclusivist rather than universalist in its reach.

Claims to being the one true church on behalf of anyone just are no longer believable, especially when it is noticed that most schisms happen along political lines to a far greater extent than along doctrinal lines.

And while I personally have no problem with pomp and ritual of tradition, traditionalism which places rites and practices at the centre of the faith rather than scripture does not leave much room for the living voice of God to be heard.