ufo sighting

[Rick Otto]

I don't believe they exist because I've never seen them. If they do exist, and you know of them, I'm asking you to correct me. Is that unreasonable?

Yes, so please stop. I find it extremely annoying. Correct yourself. I refuse to be obligated.

 

[Armoured]

Yes, so please stop. I find it extremely annoying. Correct yourself. I refuse to be obligated.

Asking questions about your claims is extremely annoying? Oh, well pardon me. I'll just take your word for anything from now on.

 

[Berean777]

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[crjmurray]

Yes, so please stop. I find it extremely annoying. Correct yourself. I refuse to be obligated.

Wait what?! You expect to be able to make wild claims without providing any support and then get mad at the people that question your claims?

 

[Rick Otto]

Wait what?! You expect to be able to make wild claims without providing any support and then get mad at the people that question your claims?

You forgot the part about the claim where I said I wasn't interested in prooving the claim.

You think your demand is respectable but you don't give any respect to the OP.
I get mad at people who expect what they consider to be wild claims, when they demand proof that is explicitly not being offered.

If you want to argue about reality, find someone who is interested, and make sure you actually read what they post. Maybe they won't g e t mad at you for ignoring them and expecting to be catered to.

 

[crjmurray]

You forgot the part about the claim where I said I wasn't interested in prooving the claim.

You think your demand is respectable but you don't give any respect to the OP.
I get mad at people who expect what they consider to be wild claims, when they demand proof that is explicitly not being offered.

If you want to argue about reality, find someone who is interested, and make sure you actually read what they post. Maybe they won't g e t mad at you for ignoring them and expecting to be catered to.

No one is demanding anything. This is a discussion forum. This is not your personal blog. If you refuse to provide any support for your claims then there's no way to tell the difference between someone who wants honest discussion or some troll who is trying to screw with the UFOers.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Trolling in to inquire ... do you have any reasonable answer as to why exiled demons would be including you in the quest of knowledge of them? Presuming that you have now become a 'witness' to their activity. Do they have any thing that could be considered a 'portal' for you to have fallen thru to do so?

 

[Chicken Little]

Trolling in to inquire ... do you have any reasonable answer as to why exiled demons would be including you in the quest of knowledge of them? Presuming that you have now become a 'witness' to their activity. Do they have any thing that could be considered a 'portal' for you to have fallen thru to do so?

you just mocked Jesus for the same reasons you mock rick.
the real point is God revealed to Rick something he hasn't revealed to you. if I were you I would ask Jesus why he hasn't given you any such discernment! because Jesus had it as a man and as a man he is our example ..and his disciples had it, but you all don't and your mocking those who do. and the pharisee did that too and mocked those who did have it and and we all know who's is playing with them now. and it ain't Jesus .

 

[Rick Otto]

No one is demanding anything. This is a discussion forum. This is not your personal blog. If you refuse to provide any support for your claims then there's no way to tell the difference between someone who wants honest discussion or some troll who is trying to screw with the UFOers.

If that is your predicament, I suggest you find another thread.
Thanks for understanding.

 

[Rick Otto]

Trolling in to inquire ... do you have any reasonable answer as to why exiled demons would be including you in the quest of knowledge of them? Presuming that you have now become a 'witness' to their activity. Do they have any thing that could be considered a 'portal' for you to have fallen thru to do so?

Who is in quest?

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Who is in quest?

Well, I always told my kids in lieu of pulling the plug on the cable that watching all the paranormal shows on tv was a form of studying demon activity. By demon activity I mean those Atlantian creatures who were advanced enough to avoid the preAdamic chaotic earth scene, much like the rich and famous could do so now with their prebooked flights to the outer limits. Anyway, said child now has encounters that I think stem from that, but she doesn't realize that she gave an opening. Anymore than she was almost 'naturally' gay after a traumatic event that if it had not been for a "malebonding" experience where she was beatup when being mistaken for a boy sent her back to a more feminine perspective, would have not realized it as anything but a natural occurance.
Not to say that you were seeking the experience but I think that things we may not realize (oiji board as extreme example) do bring on events.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

yo

u just nocked jesus for the same reasons you mock rick.
the real point is God revealed to Rick something he hasn't revealed to you. if I were you I would ask Jesus why he hasn't given you any such discernment! because Jesus had it as a man and as a man he is our example ..and his disciple had it, but you all don't and your mocking those who do. and the pharisee did that too and mocked those who did have it and and we all know who's is playing with them now. and it ain't Jesus .

yo, whatever, I look to Christ and keep my mind off worldly things.

 

[Rick Otto]

Well, I always told my kids in lieu of pulling the plug on the cable that watching all the paranormal shows on tv was a form of studying demon activity. By demon activity I mean those Atlantian creatures who were advanced enough to avoid the preAdamic chaotic earth scene, much like the rich and famous could do so now with their prebooked flights to the outer limits. Anyway, said child now has encounters that I think stem from that, but she doesn't realize that she gave an opening. Anymore than she was almost 'naturally' gay after a traumatic event that if it had not been for a "malebonding" experience where she was beatup when being mistaken for a boy sent her back to a more feminine perspective, would have not realized it as anything but a natural occurance.
Not to say that you were seeking the experience but I think that things we may not realize (oiji board as extreme example) do bring on events.

My first sighting was at 4yrs old, when I was bored and angry at my mom for making me attend a 3yr old's birthday party. Another boy saw it first and told me about it. When I saw it, I told him to get his mother out there.
It happened to one adult and a dozen children.
I'm familiar with what you're saying, but I don't feel personally singled out by this, or personally responsible for it having happened.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

My first sighting was at 4yrs old, when I was bored and angry at my mom for making me attend a 3yr old's birthday party. Another boy saw it first and told me about it. When I saw it, I told him to get his mother out there.
It happened to one adult and a dozen children.
I'm familiar with what you're saying, but I don't feel personally singled out by this, or personally responsible for it having happened.

Interesting

 

[Chicken Little]

Mat 16:4

A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign( proof) ; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

HI Rick well you said you were young so I will try to make this clear as I can.
it is your Job to find out not what men think about what is going on around you , nor do you have to prove one ..... thing to them. But what your job is is to find out what Our Lord says about what you are seeing and why .
what I need you to do is study Elijah and Daniel (so far the only one I can think of ), these guys had conversations with angels in dreams and otherwise. But somehow they learned it they knew what was going on in the heavens above them. they knew when the heaven were opened or closed and why it wasn't raining or after years of drought that the Lord's angels were there in the ( dimensions above Israel) so the Lord was revealing to these boys / men? what was effecting the heavens around them.
So what I would like to ask you to do is study and pray about what and why the Lord was showing you those things.

Actually He used nature and rain and storms and such to show me the powers or authorities in and of the heavens around me in a different way than he seems to be showing it to you. my training has been like over 20 years.. looks like you are getting a way shorter or compacted version.. because others saw it so you aren't crazy and so even now you can't deny it and Now you need to deal with the Lord Himself directly and in his word in and in prayer about all of it. so study in the Bible and what is known and read and read in the Bible about these issues involved in prayer and demons and that he seems to have given you some in
"(in)site for" these concepts , not it is your job to find out WHY he allowed you to see what new are allowed to see..

Now for some warnings ,, please do not get your definitions about any of these subjects from men(kind) but only from God / Jesus / his Spirit and only ask him about what he thinks about what he showed yo or allowed you to see . it may take you a few years or more to understand what it is he is showing you and why .
so don't expect quick answers but do expect slow changes and to be changed in your current ideas and in your concepts of the world around you and in your concepts of who He is. All these issues will slowly change in your mind until you come into agreement with his word and his purposes .

ps so to start you off with some good questions and concepts to pray about and to ask him about .
the Biblical word "possession" is a military term that can mean anything the enemy takes control of all roads leading in and out of a city, or an area or even a person ( think kingdoms of power and authority) to them running crazy in the streets they have so posessed that kingdoms authority .
so could what you and the other kids were seeing and are calling ufo's,
was it from God's point of view maybe really just proof that the city or places you were in was in the possession of God's and man's enemies ? and maybe because of that power in the heavens the saints prayers weren't being answered there ? or those prayers was taking for ever to be answered ( see Daniel) ? that might give you a good start. really study Elijah and Daniel. there is definitely a few concepts hiding in those fellows lives, not counting Jesus and the Disciples concepts about prayer and Demons and such. you will definitely want to pray about getting or not getting books about this subject.. I would stay away from all UFO books.. but books about discernment and spiritual warfare well maybe. or maybe not.
the truth is no one But Jesus himself can teach you what he needs you to know about stuff and things only he knows and only he knows why he allowed you to see it and the way you did . maybe this is the way he choose to teach you some Big concepts that take some people all their lives to learn. and if we have that much time might take you all of yours to even begin to grasp .
but start with prayer and seek him for wisdom and His spirit.

1Co 2:13

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 3:19

For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1Co 12:8

For to one is given by the Spirit the word ofwisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
2Co 1:12

For our rejoicing is this, the testimony of our conscience, that in simplicity and godly sincerity, not with fleshly wisdom, but by the grace of God, we have had our conversation in the world, and more abundantly to you-ward.
Eph 1:8

Wherein he hath abounded toward us in allwisdom and prudence;
Eph 1:17

That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdomand revelation in the knowledge of him:
Eph 3:10

To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
Col 1:9

For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in allwisdom and spiritual understanding;
Col 1:28

Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
Col 2:3

In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
Col 2:23

Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.
Col 3:16

Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in allwisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
Col 4:5

Walk in wisdom toward them that are without, redeeming the time.
Jas 1:5

If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
Jas 3:13

Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness ofwisdom.
Jas 3:15

This wisdom descendeth not from above, but isearthly, sensual, devilish.
Jas 3:17

But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
2Pe 3:15

And account that the longsuffering of our Lord issalvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
Rev 5:12

Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, andwisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.
Rev 7:12

Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev 13:18

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Rev 17:9

And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

The spirit is sent to us to reveal God's truth and His wisdom . He promises to give it freely to all who ask for it freely.
so no short cuts ok? His understandings come by his processes so you will need patience .

 

[Rick Otto]

Thank you Chicken, that was good advice.
I've learned quite a bit of what is out there to believe about it.
The demonic connection is real, and this is where they interface personally with humanity.
I know they have lost the upper hand and their time is shorter than ever.
I'm sure there are many good reasons many of us are shown, and one may be to help with the culture shock of transition from a non-disclosure situation to disclosure as a fact.
It will involve global tribunals to provide justice and prosecution, while the technology gets released and deployed in an orderly manner, helping the worst off first.

 

[Chicken Little]

I don't know if what your seeing is even demonic, it can still be a trick of humans and governments .
like in Yeman or Arabia( middle east someplace) , they had all those flying horses and such, maybe they were faking an end time event to pull the wool over their people eyes. just more thieves and liars and their illusions .

 

[bhsmte]

Wow!

 

[James Is Back]

I don't know if what your seeing is even demonic, it can still be a trick of humans and governments .
like in Yeman or Arabia( middle east someplace) , they had all those flying horses and such, maybe they were faking an end time event to pull the wool over their people eyes. just more thieves and liars and their illusions .

Pegasus Either that or one of the Horseman of the Apocalypse lost his horse

Seriously that's eerie!

 

[Chicken Little]

Pegasus Either that or one of the Horseman of the Apocalypse lost his horse

Seriously that's eerie!

^^^^ or or that angels of Allah , he fell off his Horse during that tornado..and the apocalypse of Allah has been officially postponed until further notice or the angel of allah leg heals or they get a new bigger helicopter ;0