Trump wins Iowa

[RileyG]

I'm not surprised he won.

 

[JSRG]

The amount of people talking about how this shows Trump is going to win the primary strikes me as rather odd. Yes, Trump had a big lead, but anyone who was on the "I just want sometone other than Trump" group--which is a good portion of people--were split between the other candidates, especially DeSantis and Haley. If those two combined their votes, they would be very close to how Trump did. Now, in actuality I expect if one of them wasn't running, while most of their votes would transfer to the other, some would go over to Trump. Still, the vote splitting shouldn't be ignored.

But okay, someone might still insist "even if the supporters of every other candidate combined their votes for one candidate, Trump would've gotten a majority." True. But all that would mean is that Trump did well in Iowa. But the person who won the Democratic nomination in 2020--Joe Biden--got fourth place in the Iowa caucus (he was beaten by Buttigieg, Sanders, and Warren). The Iowa caucus isn't necessarily that great a predictor of who wins. Heck, Biden won the whole thing after doing poorly in the first three primaries.

The results show Trump is off to a good start, but let's not read more into them than we should. The real race at this point is between Haley and DeSantis to see which one will convince the other to drop out first, and then we can see how the votes end up coalescing behind the other. In regards to this matter, Haley has the advantage in getting 2nd place, but it'll take a few more primaries to really shake things out.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

The amount of people talking about how this shows Trump is going to win the primary strikes me as rather odd. Yes, Trump had a big lead, but anyone who was on the "I just want sometone other than Trump" group--which is a good portion of people--were split between the other candidates, especially DeSantis and Haley. If those two combined their votes, they would be very close to how Trump did. Now, in actuality I expect if one of them wasn't running, while most of their votes would transfer to the other, some would go over to Trump. Still, the vote splitting shouldn't be ignored.

But okay, someone might still insist "even if the supporters of every other candidate combined their votes for one candidate, Trump would've gotten a majority." True. But all that would mean is that Trump did well in Iowa. But the person who won the Democratic nomination in 2020--Joe Biden--got fourth place in the Iowa caucus (he was beaten by Buttigieg, Sanders, and Warren). The Iowa caucus isn't necessarily that great a predictor of who wins. Heck, Biden won the whole thing after doing poorly in the first three primaries.

The results show Trump is off to a good start, but let's not read more into them than we should. The real race at this point is between Haley and DeSantis to see which one will convince the other to drop out first, and then we can see how the votes end up coalescing behind the other. In regards to this matter, Haley has the advantage in getting 2nd place, but it'll take a few more primaries to really shake things out.

Biden did poorly in the primaries and yet he still won with a majority. Hmmm. how does that happen?

 

[A2SG]

Biden did poorly in the primaries and yet he still won with a majority. Hmmm. how does that happen?

It's almost as if the only reason Iowa is given any significance at all is because it happens first.

-- A2SG, that's it, and nothing more....

 

[Hans Blaster]

The results show Trump is off to a good start, but let's not read more into them than we should. The real race at this point is between Haley and DeSantis to see which one will convince the other to drop out first, and then we can see how the votes end up coalescing behind the other. In regards to this matter, Haley has the advantage in getting 2nd place, but it'll take a few more primaries to really shake things out.

Haley needed to do better in Iowa and DeSantis is basically doomed. I don't see DeSantis getting ahead of Trump anywhere under the current conditions (pre-trial/conviction, which may or may not have any effect). Haley's only chance is to win NH where she is close to Trump in the polling and far ahead of DeSantis and then her home state of South Carolina. If she can do that there is a chance of splitting some Super Tuesday states to hold out and hope Trump's legal problems catch up with him.

 

[Whyayeman]

Ever seen a map? Ever noticed the distance between Berlin and Washington D.C.? Ever noticed that giant ocean in between? Man, that is one very forward position.

And Pearl Harbor isn't even on it.

The event that brought USA into WW2 was the pre-emptive attack on the US Pacific Fleet by an ally of Germany. Today one of Russia's most helpful allies is North Korea. There is a risk of the pattern repeating itself, hence the need for strong alliances with USA and other democratic states- NATO and SEATO being most important.

Trump knows very little of the history of his own country, a common trait in Americans. He cannot be trusted with American security.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Even the European Press acknowledges Trump's unpreceded achievement.

Trump may as well walk into the White House now

Pundits and anti-Trump Republicans have hoped for months that a serious challenge to former President Donald Trump would emerge. Iowa’s caucus results not only showed that has not happened; they were his best possible outcome.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Nithavela]

The amount of people talking about how this shows Trump is going to win the primary strikes me as rather odd. Yes, Trump had a big lead, but anyone who was on the "I just want sometone other than Trump" group--which is a good portion of people--were split between the other candidates, especially DeSantis and Haley. If those two combined their votes, they would be very close to how Trump did. Now, in actuality I expect if one of them wasn't running, while most of their votes would transfer to the other, some would go over to Trump. Still, the vote splitting shouldn't be ignored.

But okay, someone might still insist "even if the supporters of every other candidate combined their votes for one candidate, Trump would've gotten a majority." True. But all that would mean is that Trump did well in Iowa. But the person who won the Democratic nomination in 2020--Joe Biden--got fourth place in the Iowa caucus (he was beaten by Buttigieg, Sanders, and Warren). The Iowa caucus isn't necessarily that great a predictor of who wins. Heck, Biden won the whole thing after doing poorly in the first three primaries.

The results show Trump is off to a good start, but let's not read more into them than we should. The real race at this point is between Haley and DeSantis to see which one will convince the other to drop out first, and then we can see how the votes end up coalescing behind the other. In regards to this matter, Haley has the advantage in getting 2nd place, but it'll take a few more primaries to really shake things out.

I can't see anyone who votes for DeSantis voting for Haley, and vice versa. One is trying to position himself as Trump, but tougher, the other one appeals to the moderate conversatives. You really think those voting groups will vote for the candidate of the other?

Those GOP members who only want to prevent Trump will either abstain in the presidential election or even hold their nose and vote for Biden.

 

[Arcangl86]

Even the European Press acknowledges Trump's unpreceded achievement.

Trump may as well walk into the White House now

Pundits and anti-Trump Republicans have hoped for months that a serious challenge to former President Donald Trump would emerge. Iowa’s caucus results not only showed that has not happened; they were his best possible outcome.

www.yahoo.com

I know you know this, but for others who might take your post at face value. The article is from the Telegraph, a noted Conservative (as in the political party) paper in the UK, but it came from it's US section and was written by a well known conservative American journalist.

 

[wing2000]

Even the European Press acknowledges Trump's unpreceded achievement.

Trump may as well walk into the White House now

Pundits and anti-Trump Republicans have hoped for months that a serious challenge to former President Donald Trump would emerge. Iowa’s caucus results not only showed that has not happened; they were his best possible outcome.

www.yahoo.com

A former President only wins 51% of the vote within his own party....I'm not sure I would be bragging about that.

 

[QvQ]

A former President only wins 51% of the vote within his own party....I'm not sure I would be bragging about that.

Biden won 13.7% of Democrat Iowa Caucus vote in 2020
That is 13.7% within his own party

 

[wing2000]

Biden won 13.7% of Democrat Iowa Caucus vote in 2020
That is 13.7% within his own party

He wasn't a former POTUS.

 

[JSRG]

Biden did poorly in the primaries and yet he still won with a majority. Hmmm. how does that happen?

He didn't do poorly in the primaries in general. He did poorly in the first few primaries (Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada). But the next one was South Carolina, which he did very well in, and then won Super Tuesday. That momentum brought him to victory.

 

[Whyayeman]

That momentum brought him to victory.

Oh, no it didn't. He lost. Haven't you heard?

 

[TrueBeliever1989]

It wasn't even close.

I have a thought experiment for my fellow Christians who are casting their votes for Donald Trump. If you'd like to play along, there is one rule. You have to answer it with one word and you have to make a choice.

If you had to choose a new pastor to lead your church and God gave you two choices and said you have to choose one, who would you choose?

Would you choose the guy who goes to church regularly or the guy who can't recite a single bible verse?

Would you choose the guy who’s paid off his son’s mistakes or the guy who’s paid off hookers?

Would you choose the guy who's still married to the mother of his children, or the guy who has cheated on every wife with the next wife and been convicted of rape in court?

Would you choose the guy who’s last church was liberal and still tells him what to do, or the guy whose last church was split in half and still hates him?

Would you choose the guy who's got a job, or the guy who's out on bail?

Would you choose the guy whose Christmas message was “love your enemies” or the guy whose Christmas message was “may they rot in hell”? That was LITERALLY Trump's message to America on Christmas, no exaggerating...

Now it's time to answer which one of these guys you would like to lead your church, because one of them is going to no matter what but you get to choose which. Would you choose the first guy or the second guy?

You can only answer with one word or you lose. First or second? Choosing neither is a forfeit.

 

[TrueBeliever1989]

The American People went to the ballot box during a winter blizzard and chose Donald Trump to be the next President.

Trump wins historic landslide in Iowa caucuses as DeSantis edges Haley for second

The victory further cements Trump’s status as the most likely candidate to face off against Biden in November.

www.yahoo.com

I have a thought experiment for my fellow Christians who are casting their votes for Donald Trump. If you'd like to play along, there is one rule. You have to answer it with one word and you have to make a choice.

If you had to choose a new pastor to lead your church and God gave you two choices and said you have to choose one, who would you choose?

Would you choose the guy who goes to church regularly or the guy who can't recite a single bible verse?

Would you choose the guy who’s paid off his son’s mistakes or the guy who’s paid off hookers?

Would you choose the guy who's still married to the mother of his children, or the guy who has cheated on every wife with the next wife and been convicted of rape in court?

Would you choose the guy who’s last church was liberal and still tells him what to do, or the guy whose last church was split in half and still hates him?

Would you choose the guy who's got a job, or the guy who's out on bail?

Would you choose the guy whose Christmas message was “love your enemies” or the guy whose Christmas message was “may they rot in hell”? That was LITERALLY Trump's message to America on Christmas, no exaggerating...

Now it's time to answer which one of these guys you would like to lead your church, because one of them is going to no matter what but you get to choose which. Would you choose the first guy or the second guy?

You can only answer with one word or you lose. First or second? Choosing neither is a forfeit.

 

[HTacianas]

I have a thought experiment for my fellow Christians who are casting their votes for Donald Trump. If you'd like to play along, there is one rule. You have to answer it with one word and you have to make a choice.

If you had to choose a new pastor to lead your church and God gave you two choices and said you have to choose one, who would you choose?

Would you choose the guy who goes to church regularly or the guy who can't recite a single bible verse?

Would you choose the guy who’s paid off his son’s mistakes or the guy who’s paid off hookers?

Would you choose the guy who's still married to the mother of his children, or the guy who has cheated on every wife with the next wife and been convicted of rape in court?

Would you choose the guy who’s last church was liberal and still tells him what to do, or the guy whose last church was split in half and still hates him?

Would you choose the guy who's got a job, or the guy who's out on bail?

Would you choose the guy whose Christmas message was “love your enemies” or the guy whose Christmas message was “may they rot in hell”? That was LITERALLY Trump's message to America on Christmas, no exaggerating...

Now it's time to answer which one of these guys you would like to lead your church, because one of them is going to no matter what but you get to choose which. Would you choose the first guy or the second guy?

You can only answer with one word or you lose. First or second? Choosing neither is a forfeit.

First, I don't choose a pastor for my Church. The Church chooses a priest. I don't have anything to do with it. Second, you are asking about choosing a political leader based primarily on his personal life rather than his ability to lead. I don't see it that way. I don't dislike Joe Biden because he sexually assaulted an aide. I don't like Joe Biden because I don't like his leadership style and I don't like his ideas. I like Trump's leadership style and I like his ideas. He actually changed things while he was in office. From demanding NATO step up to its obligations under the NATO treaty to walking unescorted into North Korea in order to make peace.

 

[Whyayeman]

That is a forfeit!

[As an aside:

walking unescorted into North Korea in order to make peace.

You think that peace came with that step? It made no difference to anything except both Trump and Kim Jong-un. they both treated it as a diplomatic triumph.]

 

[HTacianas]

That is a forfeit!

[As an aside:

You think that peace came with that step? It made no difference to anything except both Trump and Kim Jong-un. they both treated it as a diplomatic triumph.]

According to the President of South Korea it was a success. He even stated that Trump should receive the Nobel Prize for it.

 

[Whyayeman]

According to the President of South Korea it was a success. He even stated that Trump should receive the Nobel Prize for it.

So, North Korea is now an ally of USA!

Who knew?