time of the gentiles...

[visionary]

The phrase "Times of the Gentiles" he's referring to is found only in one place:

Luke 21:24 (KJV) — And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

We're told that the Times of the Gentiles will not end until Jerusalem is no longer ruled by other nations. But when will this interference finally end? Perhaps when Israel receives undisputed sovereignty over Jerusalem and the Temple Mount. I found a key related verse mentioning Jerusalem being trampled or trodden:

Revelation 11:2 (NIV) — But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months.

So we see clearly that the Times of the Gentiles, or the nations in Hebrew, trampling Jerusalem as defined by Luke is not over until the 42 months of the Great Tribulation are finished. After this point all the nations of the Earth will serve God and eventually ratify his Torah as Zechariah 14 tells us:

Zechariah 14:16 Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the Lord of Hosts, and to celebrate the Festival of Booths. 17 Should any of the families of the earth not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of Hosts, rain will not fall on them. 18 And if the people of Egypt will not go up and enter, then rain will not fall on them; this will be the plague the Lord inflicts on the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Booths. 19 This will be the punishment of Egypt and all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Booths.

We see that once the trodding or trampling on Jerusalem ends with the defeat of the armies at Armageddon on the Day of the Lord, nations will still be visiting Jerusalem. Only this time they will be doing so to keep the Feast of Tabernacles or Booths or Sukkot in Hebrew. The Feast of Sukkot is one of three pilgrimage feasts required by the Torah in Leviticus 23. Clearly just as Jeremiah 31 says, the Torah will be reinstated with the New Covenant at that time. I understand that only the Old Covenant was done away (because of both Israel and Judah breaking it), but the Torah, or God's "instructions," will be taught and required again when the New Covenant with Israel and Judah of Jeremiah 31:31 is made. The difference, of course, will be that this time they will have God's spirit in them all, and a glorified, perfect, righteous immortal King Yeshua of Nazareth leading the One World Governement. Bring on the end of the Times of the Gentiles.

http://www.escapeallthesethings.com/times-of-the-gentiles-fulfilled.htm

 

[plum]

hmm... interesting article find, vis!

so, are you (and that author) saying that the Time of the Gentiles lasts for only 42 months? it seems like that from how I read this:

Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

??

 

[visionary]

I am on the fence on this one... one minute I think yes, then the next I think Hmmm.... It would not surprise me that it a time when the Jews come to Yeshua and the gentiles run from Him.

 

[plum]

hmmm.. how do you see that reflected here in the Scriptures?

 

[visionary]

The gentiles worship the anti-christ, the great imitation of Jesus. The reason I use the name Jesus is because if HaSatan comes imitating Yeshua, it would confuse the gentiles. If HaSatan comes imitating Jesus the gentile world would bite. I think that HaStan does His great imitation during the 42 months that the witnesses are pointing at him and telling the world he is the great phoney.

 

[Aethelsige]

An EU spokesman said the withdrawal from Gaza is a model for the Jews removing themselves from Jerusalem.

 

[visionary]

You are on... EU is helping set up the start of the end with that attitude.

 

[stone]

I understand that only the Old Covenant was done away (because of both Israel and Judah breaking it), but the Torah, or God's "instructions," will be taught and required again when the New Covenant with Israel and Judah of Jeremiah 31:31 is made. The difference, of course, will be that this time they will have God's spirit in them all, and a glorified, perfect, righteous immortal King Yeshua of Nazareth leading the One World Governement. Bring on the end of the Times of the Gentiles.

http://www.escapeallthesethings.com/times-of-the-gentiles-fulfilled.htm

i think i found the answer to my question in the witnessing thread, the one about the last supper and what was this covenant Jeshua made???

 

[Sephania]

The gentiles worship the anti-christ, the great imitation of Jesus. The reason I use the name Jesus is because if HaSatan comes imitating Yeshua, it would confuse the gentiles. If HaSatan comes imitating Jesus the gentile world would bite. I think that HaStan does His great imitation during the 42 months that the witnesses are pointing at him and telling the world he is the great phoney.

I'm confused Vis, where are the Jews during this time?

 

[visionary]

I get the impression that they are in the temple worshipping. As it says, in Rev 11:2, the other believers that hang out in the outer court where the cross is symbolically kept and where the basin is.

 

[Sephania]

So all the Jews during the tribulation are no longer secular?

 

[visionary]

Not since they have entered the temple to be priests with Yeshua.

Exodus 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Thus fulfilling this prophectic statement.