Thoughts ...

[x141]

You must be born again to see, but born of water and spirit to enter, put in other words, it is one thing to see, but another to be fully conscious of it.

 

[x141]

Thoughts within consciousness …

There are principles and patterns of interpretation both of matter and on the conscious level that words are as seeds born of.

What Sarai was to Abram over a son Eve was to Adam, and the earth was to God.

Most Christian’s (which is the same in all religions (but Christianity (mother of harlots in picture) is the child of Judaism, which is the byproduct of Moses as what swallows all other serpents), seek a God of limits who is outside of the relationship of being one with him from it’s very foundation in them as this word God, which through perception divides them within themselves through reasoning as a man (no gender implied), which as the wilderness wandering is an ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of the truth through a baptism of soul that fulfills all righteousness by the losing of it, hence comes the perception of a God and father of limits, borders, walls, and steps whom we are born of.

Why is the firstborn, or the one who opens the matrix (pun intended) God’s, how does this relate to the inheritance that is God, or when divided the Cain, Ishmael, or Esau (three depicting the perception of the elder that divides between two woman in Jacob as the story line of our own wandering and division related to a woman (who Jacob loved laboring a week (of years) for, only to get the elder (who became the hated) and a second week (found in the two forties, or the telling of the creative story) for the younger (loved) who gives him of her a firstborn son (who is a serpent in the path (Dan) while the elder produces a Judah (which are the two that have wisdom from God to build the tabernacle of Moses found in symbolism from the very beginning of which they themselves were (which in this, I am trying to point out the cohesiveness of the one narrative that appears as two that the Bible is).

The path of life is in, and reflected in all things that are without us.

 

[x141]

Though there is much more, the main difference found in them is the perception from the masculine as opposed to the feminine, or one of spirit or one of soul; one of process and one that speaks to the end of the process.

John 9:2-3 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

 

[Noxot]

The business and method of mysticism is love. ~Evelyn Underhill

Theologians may quarrel, but the mystics of the world speak the same language.
~Meister Eckhart

Mysticism is the art of union with Reality.
~Evelyn Underhill

It is love alone that gives worth to all things
- St. Teresa of Avila

 

[Noxot]

freedom is absolute which is why there can be limits. freedom is free and so it either is or is not or rather because freedom is, it is and it is not. on one level of reality there is limitation and on another there is not. freedom expresses itself in all kinds of ways.

the price to pay for freedom is freedom. father God denied his freedom and his sons freedom was revealed. the first two freedoms reveal a third freedom because God is love. this is why internally God is a Trinity. the Trinity is the endless center of all of reality.

an ignorant freedom means a hindered freedom. so lets say you are a creature and being a creature implies a capacity even though creatures are also know for their growth and degradation. thus without the creature functioning by the fullness of the core of reality and only functioning in 1/3rd, 1/3rd or 2/3rds of it, there is a kind of void which is then filled in by process of the creature becoming what it was not and in the same vein the son of God is crucified in the world and the son of God is the son of man, the second person of the Trinity is the Son of God. so creatures reveal God and God reveals creatures. and God contrast and revealed himself and the creatures are revealed by each other and by God. God is revealed by God.

and so limits and freedom functioning in their proper accord are not contrasting things.

the cause behind a cause is love.

 

[x141]

freedom is absolute which is why there can be limits. freedom is free and so it either is or is not or rather because freedom is, it is and it is not. on one level of reality there is limitation and on another there is not. freedom expresses itself in all kinds of ways.

the price to pay for freedom is freedom. father God denied his freedom and his sons freedom was revealed. the first two freedoms reveal a third freedom because God is love. this is why internally God is a Trinity. the Trinity is the endless center of all of reality.

an ignorant freedom means a hindered freedom. so lets say you are a creature and being a creature implies a capacity even though creatures are also know for their growth and degradation. thus without the creature functioning by the fullness of the core of reality and only functioning in 1/3rd, 1/3rd or 2/3rds of it, there is a kind of void which is then filled in by process of the creature becoming what it was not and in the same vein the son of God is crucified in the world and the son of God is the son of man, the second person of the Trinity is the Son of God. so creatures reveal God and God reveals creatures. and God contrast and revealed himself and the creatures are revealed by each other and by God. God is revealed by God.

and so limits and freedom functioning in their proper accord are not contrasting things.

the cause behind a cause is love.

This in one form is the difference between the masculine and the feminine.

 

[FanthatSpark]

As the sower sows in the moment of light .

 

[FanthatSpark]

Thoughts within consciousness …

There are principles and patterns of interpretation both of matter and on the conscious level that words are as seeds born of.

What Sarai was to Abram over a son Eve was to Adam, and the earth was to God.

Most Christian’s (which is the same in all religions (but Christianity (mother of harlots in picture) is the child of Judaism, which is the byproduct of Moses as what swallows all other serpents), seek a God of limits who is outside of the relationship of being one with him from it’s very foundation in them as this word God, which through perception divides them within themselves through reasoning as a man (no gender implied), which as the wilderness wandering is an ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of the truth through a baptism of soul that fulfills all righteousness by the losing of it, hence comes the perception of a God and father of limits, borders, walls, and steps whom we are born of.

Why is the firstborn, or the one who opens the matrix (pun intended) God’s, how does this relate to the inheritance that is God, or when divided the Cain, Ishmael, or Esau (three depicting the perception of the elder that divides between two woman in Jacob as the story line of our own wandering and division related to a woman (who Jacob loved laboring a week (of years) for, only to get the elder (who became the hated) and a second week (found in the two forties, or the telling of the creative story) for the younger (loved) who gives him of her a firstborn son (who is a serpent in the path (Dan) while the elder produces a Judah (which are the two that have wisdom from God to build the tabernacle of Moses found in symbolism from the very beginning of which they themselves were (which in this, I am trying to point out the cohesiveness of the one narrative that appears as two that the Bible is).

The path of life is in, and reflected in all things that are without us.

John 5:39-40 Even the Word itself if seen as a tool to be worshiped it is process ended for outer garden rules one = confusion for the Word is darkness to explain light yet the only means of communication in the separation Gen:3:23. Concept furthered... See how much God loves us to teach in darkness? He will dirty His hands for us (for a picture, another picture Jesus washes feet).

 

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... the darkness our mind becomes to us (in one form). When this is superimposed on to the following question we can begin to see what our soul becomes to us in relationship to a truth cast down ...

Why did God require the shedding of blood, could God not simply have just forgiven us ...

 

[Noxot]

he did forgive but the spirit must be free of the body

 

[FanthatSpark]

Ummmm, actually no x141 . Are we referring to OT sacrifices then NT Jesus? In relationship to our place on the time line , Aint we lucky . One was an animal one a human (for pictures sake). God was angry at one church for offering our least (In health) creatures to be offered . This in concept these were sacrifices in labor/Law until the Lamb . Because this is not of the now one never researched it... Interesting an excellent topic tooo research .

These verses ( Rev:2:4-5 is where one is in the now) where it talks of the 7 churches where in a Saint "IS" the 7 churches in relation to Matt:16:18 one talks of hierarchy shift in another thread of first love. Remember where we have fallen from (for those that labor) is the next topic (In Lights Will) . A seeker seems stuck in labor as end of process so some seeds are put to the dust of the mind in hopes they find the water to life.

 

[FanthatSpark]

This is what was found:

The whole of the Old Testament, every book, points toward the Great Sacrifice that was to come—that of Jesus’ sacrificial giving of His own life on our behalf. Leviticus 17:11 is the Old Testament’s central statement about the significance of blood in the sacrificial system. God, speaking to Moses, declares: “For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life.”

A “sacrifice” is defined as the offering up of something precious for a cause or a reason. Making atonement is satisfying someone or something for an offense committed. The Leviticus verse can be read more clearly now: God said, “I have given it to you (the creature’s life, which is in its blood) to make atonement for yourselves (covering the offense you have committed against Me).” In other words, those who are covered by the blood sacrifice are set free from the consequences of sin.
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Thus , a creature of the light realized, Witnesses/Martyr self/body (there is no greater friend who would lay down his life for another and or the Light). This reminds me of a dear friend who went to a public place and just hugged some one. No reason except they seemed to need it. The act got them a fist, not from them, but their significant other. Right here in the U.S.A. Heb:9:11 through Chapter 10 too give further verbiage on concept.

 

[x141]

Solomon offered twenty-two thousand oxen, and an hundred and twenty thousand sheep for a peace offering (can you imagine the blood), but not a single one of these would have done anything thing if he had not believed it would.

 

[x141]

The word God tries us, which is a consuming until all that is left is this Word.

 

[x141]

This is very remedial …

The New Testament speaks of a law that it only associates with what was given to Moses, when every word that proceeds from the mouth of God becomes a law to us in relationship to our soul (for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.), which the law like a river proceeds from.

We associate everything through being conditioned by the world as something outside of us, that we need to get to, obtain, or become, which is why Jesus would say that few find the path of life, even though it was freely given from the beginning; God holding nothing back from us.

It states his people perish for the lack of knowledge, even though in the beginning knowledge appeared to be something they were forbidden to eat of.

Jesus’ words were spirit and life, and if his words were not his own but his Father’s, then the words Thou shalt not eat are spirit and life, even though they are disguised in the form of a cross.

The mentality of the wildness breeds a separation, and if one does not come out of it, it leaves them in confusion as to who they are, there is no life, which can be seen in the witness of the three tribes whose inheritance was in the wilderness (as much as the twelve stones that were laid in the Jordan) that it is bloodless, or without life.

 

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(Concerning soul and the expansive language of God …)

In the journey what becomes normal to one change’s like the coming and going of the tides (until there are no more seas), reflected in what the moon plays in this upon the sea, (which is where a beast rises out), or the process of soul found in seed time and harvest (which also has it’s form as to what manner the earth yields it’s fruit (which is indicative of soul).

The narrative of the world is without increase you die, the narrative of spirit is that without death, there is no increase.

We are actually more one with all things, even down to the smallest possibility (both physically and consciously), then we know we are.

Together these two comprise the kingdom of God, and the pasture we find when we have passed through the only door, or way of relating to God; that is, as a Son accepted.

 

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To be free, is the absence of even a single doubt that you are anything less than one with your Father, and that everything that happens to you, surrounds you, and you are apart of is ordered of Him; and it is this love that you love others as.

 

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Why do we become clean, when we reason with God …

No matter who we are, or what we have done we become white as snow, or without blemish.

It seems we still don’t understand the answer to the second question found in the Bible, and how this a/effects every word found in the Bible, as much as it is found in everything else we experience in life.

We have been called to a fellowship which is found in the relationship between father and son, as to how we relate to God as our Father, as where we have come from, and where we are going (not to mention where we presently are).

In this respect (but not limited to this) we are just like Jesus, called to be baptized with the same baptism, to drink of the same cup, pick up the same cross, with a name that no one/man knows (and that he calls us by), declaring the same one truth that God is (which defines an eye that is single).

The foundation every thought is God as much as there is no other foundation that can be laid as self in us, which then defines what it means to love another as yourself.

 

[2KnowHim]

As I post on other threads and see the responses...I am baffled at the lack of understanding of even the basic principles and patterns that should be seen of Christians. Even within myself at times. And even though I have seen that the evil that still exist for some, was first found in God before the world began, it blows my mind to now see in the old test. that everytime God "Thought" to do evil towards a people or nation, and then repented, it was displaying something He had dealt with long before the World began, and seeing it finished in and through His Word/His Son, was the very first Sacrifice of Blood and that was of God. Sometimes it's overwhelming the implacations of what He went through to rid once for all the evil that was found in Him, and that all we see around us is a manifestation of the way He went about it. I don't know if that is making sense to you are not, it is hard to exspress what I am beginning to see, so bare with me. You speak of the Fellowship that we have been called to as the Relationship between The Father and The Son, I am beginning to understand this and it is awe-inspiring to say the lest. Through His Word/Son He put to death all things that were found in Him before TWB, and through His Word/Son we are finding that Fellowship that they had in The Beginning and The Glory that was share between them, in watching Righteousness Prevail, through His decrees........and now IN US/As Self we are experiencing it too. As we speak The Living Word and watch evil bow the knee, what a fellowship in deed..

No doubt God was the first one who suffered unto blood, He was the first Martyr, we are beginning to see it in His Son Jesus Christ. He and He alone put away evil and this is what we are previledged to be partaking of today. I know that sounds simple and something we should have seen all along, but not like this, or put it this way I have never, not like this.

 

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We spend so little time with our father ... which is why we don't understand the correlation between this fellowship, and our nakedness as being something relative to thought.