The Nicene Creed

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I was just having a conversation with fellow Anglicans elsewhere on this forum. I believe that given the sustained attacks on the Christian faith of the Trinity, it is more important than ever that we confess this creed every Sunday eucharist.
 

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How about reading and confessing Scripture?

The creed is man-made.

Every week(depending on the week) there's a different Torah portion, www.torahportions.org that you and others can read from and study

Perhaps you could promote the scriptures instead of doctrines created by Roman sun worshippers

Did Ha'Mashyach teach or say anything about a "trinity"?

For example: did he say anything such as "believe in the trinity for eternal life"
"Your sins are not forgiven unless you believe in the trinity"
"believers of the trinity will inherit the earth"
?
 
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How about reading and confessing Scripture?

The creed is man-made.

Every week(depending on the week) there's a different Torah portion, www.torahportions.org that you and others can read from and study

Perhaps you could promote the scriptures instead of doctrines created by Roman sun worshippers

Did Ha'Mashyach teach or say anything about a "trinity"?
Is there something in the Nicene Creed you object to or is incorrect?
 
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I was just having a conversation with fellow Anglicans elsewhere on this forum. I believe that given the sustained attacks on the Christian faith of the Trinity, it is more important than ever that we confess this creed every Sunday eucharist.

I agree enthusiastically on this point. The creed should mark the transition from the Liturgy of the Word / Liturgy of the Catechumens into the Liturgy of the Faithful. It is imperative that the congregation confesses it before the Anaphora, before partaking of the most holy Eucharist.
 
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I reject all of it. How about you?

Then you are regarding several key passages of Scripture. It should be stressed that even Arians would not reject all of it. For example, "I believe in one God."
 
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No teachings in the Scriptures about it. Why would I align myself with a teaching that has no scriptural foundation?
So, if I were to say to you that Jesus died on the Cross, you'd be sure, as a matter of conscience, to reject it.

??
 
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So, if I were to say to you that Jesus died on the Cross, you'd be sure, as a matter of conscience, to reject it.

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No. I reject the doctrine of "the trinity". I don't reject the scriptures that the fabricators of "the trinity" used & took out of context to formulate their doctrine.

Do you reject the Deity of Christ?
Before I answer this question, I need to know: what do you mean by deity? Can you clarify please?
 
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The creeds are an attempt to understand a thoroughly Jewish life lived 300 years earlier using the lens of fourth century Greek thought and philosophy. No wonder there is a disconnect.
 
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No. I reject the doctrine of "the trinity". I don't reject the scriptures that the fabricators of "the trinity" used & took out of context to formulate their doctrine.
I suppose you feel that because you reject the Trinity you need to reject the whole of the Creed, then, although many other matters that are Biblical and believed by Christians generally are referred to in it.

That, however, isn't what you wrote before. Then you said that you reject "all of it."
 
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No. I reject the doctrine of "the trinity". I don't reject the scriptures that the fabricators of "the trinity" used & took out of context to formulate their doctrine.


Before I answer this question, I need to know: what do you mean by deity? Can you clarify please?
Is Jesus God or not?
 
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Before I answer this question, I need to know: what do you mean by deity? Can you clarify please?
Is this statement a dodge or a display of ignorance. DEITY = GOD. The Bible reveals very clearly that Jesus is God. Do you believe it? If not, who is He? Had you said He is God the Son, but not God the Father, that would have been OK.
 
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The creeds are an attempt to understand a thoroughly Jewish life lived 300 years earlier using the lens of fourth century Greek thought and philosophy. No wonder there is a disconnect.

No, they are a consolidated statement of Biblical doctrine, a summary of Christian belief in response to a non-Biblical heresy.
 
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