Isiah 7:16- "before the boy will no how to reject the bad and choose the good" Implies that there was a time in the boys life where he didn't know how to reject the bad and choose the good and perhaps did some bad.
Jehovah speaking to Job, tell me, oh Job, if you in fact do know where were you (Job 38:7) "When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, and ALL THE SONS OF GOD began shouting in applause" (to Jehovah, the Father) Implies that ALL the Sons of God go through a rising and fall, a redeeming process.
Job 36:18- "Let not a large ransom itself, lead you astray"
Matthew 8:12- "Whereas (All) the sons of the kingdom will be thrown into the darkness outside, there is where their weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be"
Also some other things that came out of Jesus own mouth are suspicious, because I have learned that the things that come out of my own mouth are all to oftentimes a reflection of what's really coming out and what is being said is coming out from a truth about/from a reflection upon my own self, for example when Jesus said, "if you have faith to move mountains, but are without love, you are nothing" How would he have known something like that unless he had had some prior knowledge and personal experience with it (in the past) of let's say his own life?
I don't want to play Devils advocate here, but you asked for documentation, so here it is...
My only purpose in exploring these possibilities is to dispel them...
In Jesus name, God Bless!
This is the reason why these people are wrong in my opinion.
1) They are taking the passages out of context
2) They are inferring meaning form the passages without looking at the history, the authorship, who the author was writing two, the translation of the original words etc.
In this passage:
Isiah 7:16- "before the boy will no how to reject the bad and choose the good" Implies that there was a time in the boys life where he didn't know how to reject the bad and choose the good and perhaps did some bad.
What I've learned when it comes to interpreting Bible passages is not to go on my understanding. 1) I'm not a scholar, 2) I don't speak Hebrew or understand any of the semitic type languages 3) I'm totally ignorant on the subjects of history regarding Israel ect and the ancient cultures during those days. So because of all these three characters that I know about myself, it's my obligation to do as much research as possible to find out what these passages mean.
According to Matthew Henry's Concise commentary it says:
"He would grow up like other children, by the use of the diet of those countries; but he would, unlike other children, uniformly refuse the evil and choose the good. And although his birth would be by the power of the Holy Ghost, yet he should not be fed with angels' food".
This does not say he was Lucifer. This says, he was both God and man, and that even though he was born a man, he was perfect in his choosing of good over evil, he was the perfect man, even though he was tempted by Satan, He was 100% perfect both as a child and as a man.
"Jehovah speaking to Job, tell me, oh Job, if you in fact do know where were you (Job 38:7) "When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, and ALL THE SONS OF GOD began shouting in applause" (to Jehovah, the Father) Implies that ALL the Sons of God go through a rising and fall, a redeeming process."
That is not what this passage means. God was challenging Job asking him where was he when creation began and the ELohim (the sons of God) began shouting in applause. This was at the very beginning of creation when the universe and man was created. Lucifer was one of the morning stars (angels) who fell from heaven with the other 200 angels in the book of Enoch. He was one of Gods most favored angels. This does not infer that Jesus was an Elohim or that he was Lucifer. Jesus said himself, I and the Father are ONE. Jesus was above the Elohim and sits at the right hand of God. According to Matthew Henry's concise commentary: In this passage, God was humbling Job by showing him he wasn't around when the Elohim were shouting their applause at the beginning of creation.
"Job 36:18- "Let not a large ransom itself, lead you astray"
This passage does not refer to Lucifer being Jesus. It specifically addresses Job by saying, hey, don't be enticed by riches or a large bribe because they will turn you astray from God inferring that what is the price of money if you lose your very soul in the process? I don't know where you are seeing Jesus as Lucifer in this comment because it's just not so.
"Matthew 8:12- "Whereas (All) the sons of the kingdom will be thrown into the darkness outside, there is where their weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be"
This passage is referring to the fallen angels who fell to the earth. Lucifer/Semyaza/Azazel and their band of 200 angels are considered princes of the earth. Lucifer is considered to be the main prince of all the world/of darkness, the ruler of the material kingdom, the prince of the air. This is once again, not referring to Jesus at all. It is also talking about those that worship the fallen angels and not Christ Jesus. Those that do not follow the path of Christ, but the path of the fallen angels.
Hopefully that helps you. The people who are trying to get the masses to believe that Lucifer is Jesus, do not have a leg to stand on. The only problem I see with this, is that if you tell a lie often enough, it becomes truth. Hitler was able to convince the masses to murder 12,000,000 people. They believed he was some kind of hero of the day to save Germany, but look at the slaughter left in the wake, of millions of Jews and others who perished because of this massive group think. The same thing will go for this Lucifer/Jesus crap. The Left Hand Path agenda is to convince the masses, when they are at their utmost and suffering, when they are primed to accept a messiah because their society is at the brink of collapse, they will present the Anti-Christ to look like Jesus Christ. Remember that, Lucifer as the capability to look as one of the most beautiful angels in heaven. He used to be that a long time ago, and he is still able to put on the guise of this angelic type form. But this...is what Revelations calls the great deception. The left hand path, the illuminati, is going to try to convince the masses that Satan/the antichrist is actually Jesus Christ/God.
Anyway, that's my take on it according to the evidence.
