The Christmas Star

[timothyu]

For those of you with night sky software (free online) this is an interesting old theory to check out for yourself about the Star of Bethlehem... all based on scripture combined with the technological abilities of today. Draw your own conclusions.

 

[d taylor]

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If this was based on The Bible, then stars should be lights created by God and placed in the raqia (dome, sky, expanse) above the earth and which move over the earth. And not, stars that are actually suns millions, billions of light years away or a planet.

It is funny how you are always railing against man;s rule, but yet a video is posted of noting but man's (sciences) concocted idea about The Biblical account of Jesus' birth .

 

[AlexB23]

For those of you with night sky software (free online) this is an interesting old theory to check out for yourself about the Star of Bethlehem... all based on scripture combined with the technological abilities of today. Draw your own conclusions.

Some say the Star of Bethlehem was a supernova in 4 BC. But all that matters is that Jesus was born to save us, no matter what the exact date is.

Supernova theory: 1978JRASC..72...65M Page 65

 

[Tuur]

Have started watching it. Right of the bat there's a mistake: Kepler placed Herod the Great's death in 4 BC because he died the same year he executed those who torn down an image placed at the gates to the temple, and there was a lunar eclipse on the night after the execution (Josephus states the moon turned to blood). The problem isn't due to a typo, it's due to a candidate lunar eclipse in 4 BC being a partial eclipse, and that's not likely to give the red moon effect. However, there is a better candidate in 1 BC..

Here's a handy reference: Catalog of Lunar Eclipses: -0099 to 0000 . Keep in mind that in history there was no year zero, so 1 BC is the year 0 in the tables, and 4 BC is the year -3.

 

[AV1611VET]

Some say the Star of Bethlehem was a supernova in 4 BC. But all that matters is that Jesus was born to save us, no matter what the exact date is.

Supernova theory: 1978JRASC..72...65M Page 65

Supernovas don't lead people to exact street addresses; and if they appear to some people, they should appear to all.

 

[timothyu]

It is funny how you are always railing against man;s rule, but yet a video is posted of noting but man's (sciences) concocted idea about The Biblical account of Jesus' birth .

All I said was if you have the software check it out and draw your own conclusions.

 

[Tuur]

It's interesting. Yet at the end he points out a lunar eclipse on April 3, 33 AD. But it's not recorded in the gospels. A check with NASA (Catalog of Lunar Eclipses: 0001 to 0100 ) has a partial eclipse on April 3, 33 AD, not a total eclipse.

 

[timothyu]

has a partial eclipse on April 3, 33 AD, not a total eclipse.

Still would be enough to make a blood moon to a degree from what I've seen, no? But again the main focus was on the Christmas 'star'.

 

[Tuur]

Still would be enough to make a blood moon to a degree from what I've seen, no? But again the main focus was on the Christmas 'star'.

Um...not that I recall. The partial ones I remember have a sort of orangish tint. Total lunar eclipses look deep, dark, red to me. But if we say that the lunar eclipse visible in Jerusalem in 4 BC wasn't blood red because it wasn't a total eclipse, we'd have to say the same about the one on April 3, 33 AD.

We can speculate all day, being none of us were there, but if the partial lunar eclipse on April 3, 33 AD didn't give the moon a deep blood red tint, it might be why none of the gospel writers noted it on the night of the crucifixion. That's if the crucifixion occurred on April 3, 33 AD.

 

[Robban]

For those of you with night sky software (free online) this is an interesting old theory to check out for yourself about the Star of Bethlehem... all based on scripture combined with the technological abilities of today. Draw your own conclusions.

Not the first time.

From the "Life of Our Forefather Abraham."
One of the most important persons at Nimrod's court in Babel, or
Babylonia, was Terah, the son of Nahor a great great grandson of Eber.
Terah had three sons, Abram, Nahor and Haran.

The night before Abram was born, Nimrod's astrologers were gathered at Terah's house.
Looking out into the night sky, they read in the constellation of the
stars that a newly born child was to become the chief and the father of a mighty nation.

The discovery was communicated to Nimrod, who became afraid that the new star might darken his own.

Nimrod asked Terah to bring the newly born baby to the palace to be killed.
Terah tried to talk Nimrod out of it, but he couldn't.

In short Terah exchanged his son with a servant's child born the same day as Abram.
Nimrod killed the child with his own hands.

 

[Robban]

Not the first time.

From the "Life of Our Forefather Abraham."
One of the most important persons at Nimrod's court in Babel, or
Babylonia, was Terah, the son of Nahor a great great grandson of Eber.
Terah had three sons, Abram, Nahor and Haran.

The night before Abram was born, Nimrod's astrologers were gathered at Terah's house.
Looking out into the night sky, they read in the constellation of the
stars that a newly born child was to become the chief and the fathe of a mighty nation.

The discovery was communicated to Nimrod, who became afraid that the new star might darken his own.

Nimrod asked Terah to bring the newly born baby to the palace to be killed.
Terah tried to talk Nimrod out of it, but he couldn't.

In short Terah exchanged his son with a servant's child born the same day as Abram.
Nimrod killed the child with his own hands.

If anyone wonders where the above comes from.

From "Our People" by Jacob Isaacs published and copyrighted by
Kehot Publication Society. 1946-1948.

 

[AlexB23]

Supernovas don't lead people to exact street addresses; and if they appear to some people, they should appear to all.

Yeah. Who knows. Just tossing an idea out there.