Teacher protests n-word use.

[k]

Lol, I thought it came from the way the southerners pronounced *****. 'negra' or something like that.


Learn something new everyday.

It is entirely possible that the southern accent contributed in some way. Language is a very difficult thing to trace with absolute certainty.

 

[praying]

It's funny whene you realize where the n-word came from.

nothing more than a lil ol' suthern mis-pronunciation

Do explain to me what is funny about the origins of the word?

 

[NothingButTheBlood]

Is it really any different than geeks embrasing geek or rednecks, redneck or hillbillys, hillibilly. I personally think of it as a swear word and don't like to hear it but shouldn't people get to say what they want?

 

[k]

Is it really any different than geeks embrasing geek or rednecks, redneck or hillbillys, hillibilly. I personally think of it as a swear word and don't like to hear it but shouldn't people get to say what they want?

The history behind the word carries considerably more weight than say does geek or redneck. Obviously, the latter two never had to worry about racism.

However, I agree people should be able to say it...and I wish there wasn't so much PC repression around it because I'd like to be able to identify racists as fast as possible.

 

[NothingButTheBlood]

The history behind the word carries considerably more weight than say does geek or redneck. Obviously, the latter two never had to worry about racism.

However, I agree people should be able to say it...and I wish there wasn't so much PC repression around it because I'd like to be able to identify racists as fast as possible.

Well redneck didn't always mean what it means now per se. I don't want to derail the thread or anything though.

 

[BOJAX]

Can you imagine if at the 5:00 whistle, Condoleeza Rice started talking like that? (Yo, Prez, I'm on tha out...gots me some hoops to play. Don't be ringin' da cell.)

 

[BOJAX]

Do explain to me what is funny about the origins of the word?

The origins of the word is funny.

The origins of how the word became a contemptuous term surely aren't.

 

[Ginny]

Well redneck didn't always mean what it means now per se. I don't want to derail the thread or anything though.

Let's start one. As one who lives in East Texas, I find much entertainment in mullets, Skoal, and Hank Williams Jr.

 

[Ginny]

IOW, I think it is wrong for people to be forced to adopt a Eurocentric tone of language and dress in order to be successful.

If one were interviewing someone for a key executive position and it came down to two people, should their use of heavy slang make or break them?

If you want to be successful in certain areas, then it is necessary to speak in a way in which others understand you.

When I was a freshman in college taking Speech 101, there was a young white male that had such a heavy heavy Southern accent that you could barely make out a word he was saying. Poor guy... this was an accent he was dealing with...not a choice of using slang. Later I became friends with the T.A. and we discussed this great guy. He told me that although this young man was very intelligent and made good speeches, his accent could hold him back. I remember every time he spoke, the class would become dead quiet and everyone just sat in awe listening to him.

He spoke very good English. It was just his accent that was so heavy... There is a difference in having an accent vs. slang'... I have a very bad habit of saying "yall" and "ain't"...but even on CF I find myself typing the words and then erasing them as to not come off as some hick. I also know that these words are incorrect.

 

[praying]

If one were interviewing someone for a key executive position and it came down to two people, should their use of heavy slang make or break them?

If you want to be successful in certain areas, then it is necessary to speak in a way in which others understand you.

When I was a freshman in college taking Speech 101, there was a young white male that had such a heavy heavy Southern accent that you could barely make out a word he was saying. Poor guy... this was an accent he was dealing with...not a choice of using slang. Later I became friends with the T.A. and we discussed this great guy. He told me that although this young man was very intelligent and made good speeches, his accent could hold him back. I remember every time he spoke, the class would become dead quiet and everyone just sat in awe listening to him.

He spoke very good English. It was just his accent that was so heavy... There is a difference in having an accent vs. slang'... I have a very bad habit of saying "yall" and "ain't"...but even on CF I find myself typing the words and then erasing them as to not come off as some hick. I also know that these words are incorrect.

I agree.

I fight with my kids about ain't, "but it is in the dictionary Mom." Well too bad don't say it.

The other fight is me and my friends, and I interupt with my friends and I. They say why, why does it have to be that way? My answer because it is and if I never correct you, you will walk into interviews using that terminology.

I want them to understand there is a time and place for everything, rightly or wrongly especially for Black kids.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

You would think that they have also given up so much so that people are able to say whatever word they want at whatever time they wish.

Well all things don't edify~

 

[k]

If one were interviewing someone for a key executive position and it came down to two people, should their use of heavy slang make or break them?

It would depend on the company. However, if it were one of those stuffy good ole boy type places then obviously, the one using the slang would be the one slanging on to another interview.

 

[Ginny]

Since when is a company considered a "stuffy good ol' boy" company just b/c they want people to communicate civilized, regardless of race?...

Slang can be considered a foreign language if you ain't down wit it, pardner....so suggesting that everyone speak mainstream English is not ludicrous.

 

[k]

Since when is a company considered a "stuffy good ol' boy" company just b/c they want people to communicate civilized, regardless of race?...

Good ole' boy companies are usually pretty easy to spot, and it's funny how only certain language forms are considered to be "civilized."

Slang can be considered a foreign language if you ain't down wit it, pardner....so suggesting that everyone speak mainstream English is not ludicrous.

True, it is not ludicrous, just extremely repressive and arrogant. Believe it or not, many who believe they speak mainstream English are really speaking slang...just ask some people who graduated from Oxford.

 

[JPPT1974]

Yeah but when you are a southern boy
You think that they are ignorant and dumb
But that isn't the case at all!