Soldiers and the Renunciation of Christ

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There comes a time when words must become plain so that they are not mistaken to mean something other than what is meant. We are rapidly approaching a time in the history of the world when we must speak and be understood, for the sake of the salvation of those who don't know Christ, and for the sake of those who profess to be Christian yet renounce Him in their actions. This is a serious matter, a matter of life and death, eternal life and eternal death.

What is the most important duty of the soldier, be he Christian, or otherwise? In the eyes of the State, the duty most valued and appreciated by them is that of executioner. The professional prison executioner, the one who kills only those who have been condemned as capital criminals, is a deplorable and wretched person to his fellowman, but not so for the soldier; national pride and recognition for the soldier who executes in concert with others are worthy and commendable characteristics.

The Oath of Enlistment

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

With these words, the Christian soldier turns his back on Christ. Conscripts, and those who freely volunteer have sworn fidelity to a cause other than mercy, forgiveness, and love. Most of these boys are either still too immature to understand the importance of what they promised or they have been brainwashed by the propaganda of state and family. Their present concern is now, before anything else, to obey the orders and instructions given to them by a man; they have sworn faithfulness to obey the President. What that means is that this soldier has given himself, body and soul, to obey a man, who is not God. There is now only one enemy, the President's enemy. This man knows that these soldiers are at his disposal and that they have sworn to fight "all enemies, foreign and domestic" and to murder even their own people without hesitation when ordered.

I know these words are hard, but they expose the brutality and horrors which military training prepares young men to perform. If we have learned anything from the spectator sport of power-politics it is that politicians are intoxicated on the potent drug of worldly fame and power. They sear the consciences of young men, then test their reflexes, then give the order, and men who the Bible calls their brother, all made in the image of God, die, while their leaders sleep peacefully, and bewitched people and Christians respond with silent applause. With very few exceptions these words will be considered insane to a people who have become slavishly submissive, through the news media, the entertainment industry, and political stagecraft, to the poison of propaganda.

All the Christian young men of America are exposed to ever-increasing measures that numb their spiritual senses to the brutality of death, although the New Testament, that they will claim to read and know, forbids the very act of even thinking such things much less elevating murder to some sacred national act. They have in effect renounced Christ, with their sworn readiness to kill at the first command of an egotistic man seated in an Oval Office, and patiently await to be told where they are to commit this murder. They will go like a herd of senseless sheep, a few will have to be compelled, but most will voluntarily go if only they can earn some recognition, a scrap of ribbon, or piece of metal.

When these boys are released, and their ability to reason independently returns, not a few will find their own lives repugnant and choose to end the shame that they were led to believe was honor. The others in self-delusion come to terms with themselves and dutifully go back to their former life and lecture others on dignity, liberty, bravery, and the brotherhood of man. You can see these men at any VA hospital or clinic parading their memorabilia on caps, jackets, and uniforms convinced they have kept the faith once delivered to the saints.

Woe to those who call evil good

and good evil,

who put darkness for light

and light for darkness,

who put bitter for sweet

and sweet for bitter.

Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes

and clever in their own sight.

Isaiah 5:20-21
 
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Christianity is a new way of looking at life. It is not a system of laws, the Constitution, or Bill of Rights which are imposed upon men through the inducement of force. Christianity, on the other hand, can only be freely ingested and digested, that is, it must be spiritually assimilated and processed.
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You ignore the words of both Peter and Paul calling the leaders in the State agents of GOD. So swearing allegiance to them is also swearing allegiance to God.

BTW - Nero was emperor when they both wrote that.
 
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Many focus on the inconsistencies of Christians in the military with the teachings of Christ. But one overlooked passage from Paul deals with not being unequally yoked together with unbelievers. We normally apply this to marriage or business relationships. But it is equally necessary not to surrender our will to unbelievers in place of Christ.
 
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But it is equally necessary not to surrender our will to unbelievers in place of Christ.
Romans 13:1 Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.

1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, 14 or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right. 15 For such is the will of God that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men.

Those governors most likely are unbelievers. In the case of Peter and Paul, the emperor was Nero. He hated christians with a passion.
 
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Romans 13:1 Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves.

1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, 14 or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right. 15 For such is the will of God that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men.

Those governors most likely are unbelievers. In the case of Peter and Paul, the emperor was Nero. He hated christians with a passion.
Notice Paul says "he" is the minister of God to "thee". Jesus says to love enemies. The magistrate must kill them or be killed sometimes.
 
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The magistrate must kill them or be killed sometimes.
Indeed. And "it" is the agent of God in doing so.

4 for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil.
 
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Indeed. And "it" is the agent of God in doing so.

4 for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil.
But not the Christian's calling. They kill people for robbing treasure we are not supposed to collect.
 
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You ignore the words of both Peter and Paul calling the leaders in the State agents of GOD. So swearing allegiance to them is also swearing allegiance to God.

BTW - Nero was emperor when they both wrote that.

No, you are wrong, I do not ignore Peter and Paul, I understand the context of what they are saying. One of the greatest mistakes that Christians make is to believe that they are citizens of this world when we are explicitly told that we cannot serve two masters. Peter asked the Pharisees, "is it better to obey God than men?" Paul tells us to "be subject unto the higher power." what he meant is that we are to obey the laws of the land as far as paying taxes and being good people but we are in no way to be subject to Nero's demand to kill his enemies or any enemy because God is the higher authority and He says to love your enemy. Christians swear no allegiance to any king other than King Jesus; if you do then you turn your back of Christ.
 
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Peter asked the Pharisees, "is it better to obey God than men?"
That was the Sadducees (temple priests) who had commanded them to NOT teach about Jesus - a direct violation of God's instructions to them.
That is the ONLY exception.
 
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Indeed. And "it" is the agent of God in doing so.

4 for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil.

Dave-W You are a casualty of commercial Christianity and fallen prey to popular Christianity's desire to have their citizenship in two worlds when that is impossible. You must choose who you will serve, man or God. Commercial Christianity is of this world and its loyalty is to the god of this world.
 
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Dave-W You are a casualty of commercial Christianity and fallen prey to popular Christianity's desire to have their citizenship in two worlds when that is impossible. You must choose who you will serve, man or God. Commercial Christianity is of this world and its loyalty is to the god of this world.
An accusation I vehemently deny.
 
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