Slimy Pharma Executives Trying To Silence Bernie Sanders Health Care Ideas

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Good clip... until they start going off on ADD. What was all that? Besides that, though, this is a total mess. It's a crime that they don't negotiate prices.
 
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Good clip... until they start going off on ADD. What was all that? Besides that, though, this is a total mess. It's a crime that they don't negotiate prices.


I don't really want to get into the ADD debate even though I have strong feelings on it but relating to Big Pharm making all those meds for ADD with some of those meds NOT even being approved to safely use in children but yet they drug kids heavily with those drugs is the only thing I can think of that would have to do with what was said about ADD relating to Big Pharma.

As far as the video my main agreement being stated here on it is that I totally believe Bernie Sanders is the only one that would do anything about this since he is not taking money from them whereas Hillary is getting money from them. Makes no sense with Hillary getting money from them for her to think we believe she will fight them on their prices. Give me money and I will fight against you? Makes no sense to me :)
 
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I don't really want to get into the ADD debate even though I have strong feelings on it but relating to Big Pharm making all those meds for ADD with some of those meds NOT even being approved to safely use in children but yet they drug kids heavily with those drugs is the only thing I can think of that would have to do with what was said about ADD relating to Big Pharma.

If you live in the United States, that is what the FDA is for, to assure drugs are safe for human use, before they are approved.

In fact, the FDA tends to be much stricter in their guidelines than many other countries, which is why some people will travel abroad to obtain drugs the FDA has not yet approved.
 
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Sanders wants to give government even more power which is a good reason not to vote for him.
Yes, better for government to be impotent against your corporate overlords.

Are you of the opinion that a government that is too weak to stop a corporation charging several thousand times more for a neccessary product is too strong?
 
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Yes, better for government to be impotent against your corporate overlords.
The more power we give the government the more power we give to these corporate overloads. Our government wasn't designed to be overlords over corporations and full control above everything.
 
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Sanders wants to give government even more power which is a good reason not to vote for him.


I hope you never find yourself screaming in pain from a physical condition with you not being able to afford a product (the only one that can relieve your pain) jacked up in price where you can't afford it OR facing life or death without having medical insurance to pay enough where you can afford the difference where you can get the medical care you need.
 
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I hope you never find yourself screaming in pain from a physical condition with you not being able to afford a product (the only one that can relieve your pain) jacked up in price where you can't afford it OR facing life or death without having medical insurance to pay enough where you can afford the difference where you can get the medical care you need.
Your own video pointed out our government is the problem. We gave it too much power because we continue to believe the problem is the solution.
 
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Your own video pointed out our government is the problem. We gave it too much power because we continue to believe the problem is the solution.


Most in our government are NOT trying to do anything about it while taking huge amounts of money in super pacs and speaking fees and that is the problem! Bernie Sanders would do something about it.
 
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I don't really want to get into the ADD debate even though I have strong feelings on it but relating to Big Pharm making all those meds for ADD with some of those meds NOT even being approved to safely use in children but yet they drug kids heavily with those drugs is the only thing I can think of that would have to do with what was said about ADD relating to Big Pharma.

As far as the video my main agreement being stated here on it is that I totally believe Bernie Sanders is the only one that would do anything about this since he is not taking money from them whereas Hillary is getting money from them. Makes no sense with Hillary getting money from them for her to think we believe she will fight them on their prices. Give me money and I will fight against you? Makes no sense to me :)

Yeah. If Clinton really believes that politicians aren't influenced by the source of their campaign contributions, why does she think we need campaign finance reform? And what does she think big donors are thinking when they make contributions to Super PACs?

Your own video pointed out our government is the problem. We gave it too much power because we continue to believe the problem is the solution.

If only this were so. In actuality, the problem we're facing is that the big corporations have too much power over government. They write laws and the legislators are too weak and dependent to do anything but pass what they write. No, this problem is independent of the size of the government. Big or small, the government is owned by the giant corporations and moneyed interests.
 
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If only this were so. In actuality, the problem we're facing is that the big corporations have too much power over government. They write laws and the legislators are too weak and dependent to do anything but pass what they write. No, this problem is independent of the size of the government. Big or small, the government is owned by the giant corporations and moneyed interests.

Very well said !!
 
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If only this were so. In actuality, the problem we're facing is that the big corporations have too much power over government. They write laws and the legislators are too weak and dependent to do anything but pass what they write. No, this problem is independent of the size of the government. Big or small, the government is owned by the giant corporations and moneyed interests.
More to the point those in the government is made up of people who made politics they whole life career and been the office for decades ... exactly like Bernie Sanders.
Bernie Sanders has already shown he is very clever playing with facts to fool the masses. For example The rich used to pay the 90% in taxes myth. They had so many ways around from paying taxes back then they paid no where near 90% but it fools the average Bernie supporter.
 
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More to the point those in the government is made up of people who made politics they whole life career and been the office for decades ... exactly like Bernie Sanders.
Bernie Sanders has already shown he is very clever playing with facts to fool the masses. For example The rich used to pay the 90% in taxes myth. They had so many ways around from paying taxes back then they paid no where near 90% but it fools the average Bernie supporter.

NO, NOT exactly like Bernie Sanders!

Bernie Sanders has the highest approval rating of any sitting US Senator and that means he has support from people in ALL parties! When some Republicans in his state were asked why they support Bernie Sanders they said because he puts THEIR interest (farmers, seniors, veterans, small business owners) ABOVE Corporate interest and that is NOT exactly like most other politicians! Even those that don't agree with him have said he is authentic and does what he says; most other politicians don't do that, either. They just talk the talk while Bernie walks the walk!

And by the way since you said like most other politicians, I think the LOW approval ratings of most others in Congress (if not all others) compared to Bernie's high approval ratings also show Bernie is not like most politicians.
 
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NO, NOT exactly like Bernie Sanders!

Bernie Sanders has the highest approval rating of any sitting US Senator and that means he has support from people in ALL parties! When some Republicans in his state were asked why they support Bernie Sanders they said because he puts THEIR interest (farmers, seniors, veterans, small business owners) ABOVE Corporate interest and that is NOT exactly like most other politicians! Even those that don't agree with him have said he is authentic and does what he says; most other politicians don't do that, either. They just talk the talk while Bernie walks the walk!
Just as that doctor who ran for Senate noted years ago who tried to limit the amount of terms you will never see change until the people decided to get rid of those politicians who made politics their career no matter the party. He even admit the power got to him in his two terms. Bernie Sanders is the problem.
 
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Just as that doctor who ran for Senate noted years ago who tried to limit the amount of terms you will never see change until the people decided to get rid of those politicians who made politics their career. He even admit the power got to him in his two terms. Bernie Sander is the problem.


Not everyone wants to get rid of every politician! Those with high approval ratings obviously their home state constituents would not want to get rid of them. Bernie Sanders is the problem only to those that don't want to accomplish the same policies as he does. He is the problem to YOU and to those that think like YOU but he is not a problem to those in his state where the majority love him and now a lot of other people love and agree with him, too :)
 
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More to the point those in the government is made up of people who made politics they whole life career and been the office for decades ... exactly like Bernie Sanders.
Bernie Sanders has already shown he is very clever playing with facts to fool the masses. For example The rich used to pay the 90% in taxes myth. They had so many ways around from paying taxes back then they paid no where near 90% but it fools the average Bernie supporter.

Again, if only the problem were career politicking. Back when the U.S. had an epic middle class, there were career politicians, no matter how much the richest used to pay in taxes. No, the problem is that the politicians (career or otherwise) are put in their positions by moneyed interests, and it is to them that they are beholden. This is the root of the problem.
 
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Not everyone wants to get rid of every politician! Those with high approval ratings obviously their home state constituents would not want to get rid of them. Bernie Sanders is the problem only to those that don't want to accomplish the same policies as he does. He is the problem to YOU and to those that think like YOU but he is not a problem to those in his state where the majority love him and now a lot of other people love and agree with him, too :)
Bernie Sanders is the problem because he only knows politics and not how the real world operates. The more I hear from him the more it's clear to me.
The love of these politicians how they stay in power for so long as they always assume it's the other politician / party that is the problem.
Again, if only the problem were career politicking. Back when the U.S. had an epic middle class, there were career politicians, no matter how much the richest used to pay in taxes. No, the problem is that the politicians (career or otherwise) are put in their positions by moneyed interests, and it is to them that they are beholden. This is the root of the problem.
In the 50's and 60's America industry was outgrowing the population growth which is why there were an "epic" middle class. After that USA started more "freebies" programs.
 
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In the 50's and 60's America industry was outgrowing the population growth which is why there were an "epic" middle class. After that USA started more "freebies" programs.

In the 40's and 50's, GIs returning from war went to college on the taxpayer's dime and we built a workforce that was both highly educated and had acquired little or no debt along the way. GDP per capita has grown pretty much year-over-year since then. "Freebies" programs are not the problem -- in fact, most of them haven't even kept up with the times. No, the problem is that politicians represent the people who fund their campaigns (and more recently, their Super PACs).
 
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In the 40's and 50's, GIs returning from war went to college on the taxpayer's dime and we built a workforce that was both highly educated and had acquired little or no debt along the way. GDP per capita has grown pretty much year-over-year since then. "Freebies" programs are not the problem -- in fact, most of them haven't even kept up with the times. No, the problem is that politicians represent the people who fund their campaigns (and more recently, their Super PACs).
And you believe that someone been in politics for decades doesn't have people backing them.

Oh I totally disagree the "freebies" programs are not the problem as they reward bad behavior.
 
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