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<blockquote data-quote="Zaius137" data-source="post: 58828714" data-attributes="member: 292689"><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><em>&#8220;That may be true in some ways, but can you give me a reason why enhancer evolution should work in a <strong>qualitatively</strong> different way (i.e. not simply faster) in fruit flies?&#8221;</em></span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Why should enhancer evolution work at all? Did you even read the link?</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><a href="http://creation.com/images/pdfs/tj/j21_2/j21_2_101-108.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="color: purple">http://creation.com/images/pdfs/tj/j21_2/j21_2_101-108.pdf</span></a> </span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><em>&#8220;Conversely, if the switches were designed, why are they changing like crazy in the space of 20-something million years* <strong>while retaining the exact same function</strong>?&#8221;</em></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><em>*Approximate divergence time of <em>D. melanogaster</em> and <em>D. pseudoobscura</em>, the most distantly related species in the <em>eve</em> enhancer study, according to the </em><a href="http://rana.lbl.gov/drosophila/" target="_blank"><em>12 <em>Drosophila</em> genomes resource</em></a><em>.</em></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Who said anything about 20-something million years? And the fruit fly example shows changes over 20 million years? My question did they diverge at all? Still fruit fly&#8217;s right? </span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><em>&#8220;In any case, <strong>that was not the point of my example</strong>. Recall that </em><a href="http://www.christianforums.com/t7593157-post58797688/#post58797688" target="_blank"><em>you said</em></a><em> that genetic switches only make sense with design. In return, I asked you how design explains the differences between certain genetic switches.&#8221;</em></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">Design says just that the differences did not come about by small changes over long periods of time (as in a hominid). How do I explain different sub routines as a programmer? I designed them that way.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">What was your point about your example?</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">&#8220;Note that this question has nothing to do with the identity or rate of evolution of the species in question. I linked a <em>Drosophila</em> study because I happened to know about one that illustrates the point quite nicely.&#8221;</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'">What was that one?</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zaius137, post: 58828714, member: 292689"] [SIZE=3][FONT=Arial][I]“That may be true in some ways, but can you give me a reason why enhancer evolution should work in a [B]qualitatively[/B] different way (i.e. not simply faster) in fruit flies?”[/I][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Arial]Why should enhancer evolution work at all? Did you even read the link?[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Arial][URL="http://creation.com/images/pdfs/tj/j21_2/j21_2_101-108.pdf"][COLOR=purple]http://creation.com/images/pdfs/tj/j21_2/j21_2_101-108.pdf[/COLOR][/URL] [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Arial][I]“Conversely, if the switches were designed, why are they changing like crazy in the space of 20-something million years* [B]while retaining the exact same function[/B]?”[/I][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Arial][I]*Approximate divergence time of [I]D. melanogaster[/I] and [I]D. pseudoobscura[/I], the most distantly related species in the [I]eve[/I] enhancer study, according to the [/I][URL="http://rana.lbl.gov/drosophila/"][I]12 [I]Drosophila[/I] genomes resource[/I][/URL][I].[/I][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Arial]Who said anything about 20-something million years? And the fruit fly example shows changes over 20 million years? My question did they diverge at all? Still fruit fly’s right? [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Arial][I]“In any case, [B]that was not the point of my example[/B]. Recall that [/I][URL="http://www.christianforums.com/t7593157-post58797688/#post58797688"][I]you said[/I][/URL][I] that genetic switches only make sense with design. In return, I asked you how design explains the differences between certain genetic switches.”[/I][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Arial]Design says just that the differences did not come about by small changes over long periods of time (as in a hominid). How do I explain different sub routines as a programmer? I designed them that way.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Arial]What was your point about your example?[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Arial]“Note that this question has nothing to do with the identity or rate of evolution of the species in question. I linked a [I]Drosophila[/I] study because I happened to know about one that illustrates the point quite nicely.”[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Arial]What was that one?[/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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