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I have been following a difference of opinion between Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens. Search the internet and it is all over. Pick your podcast and see what the say about what happened. Candace Owens started by saying she does not want US involvement in Gaza. Shapiro pretty well told her to get out of the daily wire. A few comments below and a final question at the bottom.
JUST WAR: I have followed some of the events and I do agree that Israel is fighting a "just war." Unfortunately, fighting a "just war" against Hamas (or ISIS, or many terrorist organizations) is going to be dirty business. I do not want to be in a place where I must approve of everything done by Israel, but at this point I am not aware of anything Israel is doing that is wrong. Possibly (but I do not think so) questions can be raised about the bombing of the Hospital in Gaza. Yet the Israel Defense Force claims that a Hamas headquarters was under the hospital and they claim it was not their own rocket. What convincing evidence is there that Israel is targeting civilians? Are people against Israel fighting a "just war?"
LIMITED SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL: If this is a "just war," we should give at least limited support for Israel. That support does not need to be public, it can be intelligence, the sale of weapons, etc. It can be public also (the aircraft carrier). That does NOT mean American boots should be on the ground in Gaza! Concerning weapons, we have sold Israel weapons for a half century. Stopping now would seem to be to be a big statement. It would seem we are supporting terrorism. Will we condone 9-11 now? On the other hand, I do not want to see American boots on the ground in Gaza.
MIDDLE GROUND: I think I am in the middle and do not agree with either Candace Owens or Shapiro. I think this is a personal dispute that is unfortunately being made into a national conservative issue. This is something that should be settled by a phone call between the two of them. Its too late for that now! It's far too public. Tucker Carlson is even jumping in (good grief!!).
MY CONCLUSION: I think it would be good for Candace Owens to publicly state that this is a "just war" for Israel, and for Shapiro to stop the crazy temper-tantrum and stop all the personal attacks. It would also be good for Shapiro to express some limits on American behaviors and support. Does he want boots on the ground?
THE QUESTION
I think there is some political philosophy issues in the background. Tucker Carlson has always seem to favor American isolationism. I hear the theme "we do not need to be the worlds policeman." It is an issue that I think conservatives are split on. Should we back out of NATO? Should we back out of all alliances? If a US destroy observes acts of piracy, should they not intervene as long as its not Americans? Can the Chinese Navy attack the UK navy (our "special relationship" ally) and we just watch? WOW, I would hate to see that!!! The UK has been there for us, we need to be there for them. If Hamas attacks Israel and puts baby's in ovens, rapes and murders civilians, takes multiple hostages, should we just say "oh well" and shrug our shoulders. Isolationists, please tell me, what is our place in the world? We give no support to Ukraine? Should we let Hitler conquer the world? She would let the USSR expand communism around the world? Isolationists, please offer an opinion... do we have any responsibility at all?
JUST WAR: I have followed some of the events and I do agree that Israel is fighting a "just war." Unfortunately, fighting a "just war" against Hamas (or ISIS, or many terrorist organizations) is going to be dirty business. I do not want to be in a place where I must approve of everything done by Israel, but at this point I am not aware of anything Israel is doing that is wrong. Possibly (but I do not think so) questions can be raised about the bombing of the Hospital in Gaza. Yet the Israel Defense Force claims that a Hamas headquarters was under the hospital and they claim it was not their own rocket. What convincing evidence is there that Israel is targeting civilians? Are people against Israel fighting a "just war?"
LIMITED SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL: If this is a "just war," we should give at least limited support for Israel. That support does not need to be public, it can be intelligence, the sale of weapons, etc. It can be public also (the aircraft carrier). That does NOT mean American boots should be on the ground in Gaza! Concerning weapons, we have sold Israel weapons for a half century. Stopping now would seem to be to be a big statement. It would seem we are supporting terrorism. Will we condone 9-11 now? On the other hand, I do not want to see American boots on the ground in Gaza.
MIDDLE GROUND: I think I am in the middle and do not agree with either Candace Owens or Shapiro. I think this is a personal dispute that is unfortunately being made into a national conservative issue. This is something that should be settled by a phone call between the two of them. Its too late for that now! It's far too public. Tucker Carlson is even jumping in (good grief!!).
MY CONCLUSION: I think it would be good for Candace Owens to publicly state that this is a "just war" for Israel, and for Shapiro to stop the crazy temper-tantrum and stop all the personal attacks. It would also be good for Shapiro to express some limits on American behaviors and support. Does he want boots on the ground?
THE QUESTION
I think there is some political philosophy issues in the background. Tucker Carlson has always seem to favor American isolationism. I hear the theme "we do not need to be the worlds policeman." It is an issue that I think conservatives are split on. Should we back out of NATO? Should we back out of all alliances? If a US destroy observes acts of piracy, should they not intervene as long as its not Americans? Can the Chinese Navy attack the UK navy (our "special relationship" ally) and we just watch? WOW, I would hate to see that!!! The UK has been there for us, we need to be there for them. If Hamas attacks Israel and puts baby's in ovens, rapes and murders civilians, takes multiple hostages, should we just say "oh well" and shrug our shoulders. Isolationists, please tell me, what is our place in the world? We give no support to Ukraine? Should we let Hitler conquer the world? She would let the USSR expand communism around the world? Isolationists, please offer an opinion... do we have any responsibility at all?