Science and the Bible: Pi

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In modern mathematical calculations pi, which denotes the ration of the circumference of a circle to its diameter, is generally a quantity equivalent to 3.1416. It is actually more accurate to say that pi can be carried to at least eight decimal places, which would be 3.14159265, though even 3.1415926535 can be used.

Bible skeptics often conclude that the Bible writers of 1 Kings 7:23 and 2 Chronicles 4:2, where the circular molten sea in the courtyard of Solomon's temple was ten cubits from brim to brim and that "it took a line of thirty cubits to circle all around it" can't be correct because it is impossible to have a circle with these two values.

How, the skeptic asks, could God's word being written under inspiration be so inaccurate?

Because the decimal point didn't exist at the time so it would have been pointless. Up to the time of Archimedes [third century BCE], the circumference of a circle was always measured in straight lines by the radius; and Hiram would naturally describe the sea as thirty cubits round, measuring it, as was then invariably the practice, by its radius, or semi diameter, of five cubits, which being applied six times round the perimeter, or 'brim,' would give the thirty cubits stated. There was evidently no intention in the passage but to give the dimensions of the Sea, in the usual language that every one would understand, measuring the circumference in the way in which all skilled workers, like Hiram, did measure circles at that time. He, of course, must however have known perfectly well, that as the polygonal hexagon thus inscribed by the radius was thirty cubits, the actual curved circumference would be somewhat more.

The Bible student, using reason and research over the baseless speculation of the skeptic knows that the molten sea was 10 cubits (15 feet) in diameter and it took a line of 30 cubits (45 feet) to encompass it. A ratio of one to three was adequate for the sake of a record.
 
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In modern mathematical calculations pi, which denotes the ration of the circumference of a circle to its diameter, is generally a quantity equivalent to 3.1416. It is actually more accurate to say that pi can be carried to at least eight decimal places, which would be 3.14159265, though even 3.1415926535 can be used.

Bible skeptics often conclude that the Bible writers of 1 Kings 7:23 and 2 Chronicles 4:2, where the circular molten sea in the courtyard of Solomon's temple was ten cubits from brim to brim and that "it took a line of thirty cubits to circle all around it" can't be correct because it is impossible to have a circle with these two values.

How, the skeptic asks, could God's word being written under inspiration be so inaccurate?

Because the decimal point didn't exist at the time so it would have been pointless. Up to the time of Archimedes [third century BCE], the circumference of a circle was always measured in straight lines by the radius; and Hiram would naturally describe the sea as thirty cubits round, measuring it, as was then invariably the practice, by its radius, or semi diameter, of five cubits, which being applied six times round the perimeter, or 'brim,' would give the thirty cubits stated. There was evidently no intention in the passage but to give the dimensions of the Sea, in the usual language that every one would understand, measuring the circumference in the way in which all skilled workers, like Hiram, did measure circles at that time. He, of course, must however have known perfectly well, that as the polygonal hexagon thus inscribed by the radius was thirty cubits, the actual curved circumference would be somewhat more.

The Bible student, using reason and research over the baseless speculation of the skeptic knows that the molten sea was 10 cubits (15 feet) in diameter and it took a line of 30 cubits (45 feet) to encompass it. A ratio of one to three was adequate for the sake of a record.
As they say when speaking of exegesis - "context is everything" - as your post illustrates. And the first parameter for context is how the statement would be understood by the speaker and his immediate, primary, contemporary audience.

So similarly the 7 days of creation week in Gen 1-2, summarized as such in Ex 20:11 legal code. How were seven days, each with an evening and morning, going to be understood by Moses and his contemporary readers? Were they going to "read darwinism into the text"? -- not very likely since they were not darwinists.

Taking context into account a lot of things become very simple.
 
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This is one agenda of many men/people who believe in science. That science should also be used to not only produce useful tools to help in life. But also should be used as a weapon against The Bible, to bring doubt to as many minds as they can of The Bible's trust worthiness.

Of course this is satanic inspired, just as Israel's rejection of Jesus as The promised Messiah.
 
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