Sarah Palin: Creationist

[plindboe]

To be fair, it's worth pointing out that Bush himself have stated that he wanted ID taught. Yet, it haven't happened in the years he've been in charge.

A republican politician would probably lose less votes by declaring that (s)he eats babies for breakfast every morning than declaring that (s)he accepts evolution. It would be political suicide to take a firm stance against ID.

Having this in mind I think these remarks are actually pretty tolerable->

Asked for her personal views on evolution, Palin said, "I believe we have a creator."

She would not say whether her belief also allowed her to accept the theory of evolution as fact.

"I'm not going to pretend I know how all this came to be," she said.

A typical politician. She's completely avoiding to answer the questions directly, yet she delivers "answers" that the far right loves to hear.

Peter

 

[Chalnoth]

Which, of course, was the point. It is good that you got it.

I figured, but some people actually believe that quantum mechanics says this. And furthermore it's disturbing how frequently the Copenhagen Interpretation is considered to actually describe reality, instead of merely sweeping the measurement problem under the rug. But I digress.

 

[consol]

To be fair, it's worth pointing out that Bush himself have stated that he wanted ID taught. Yet, it haven't happened in the years he've been in charge.

A republican politician would probably lose less votes by declaring that (s)he eats babies for breakfast every morning than declaring that (s)he accepts evolution. It would be political suicide to take a firm stance against ID.

Having this in mind I think these remarks are actually pretty tolerable->

A typical politician. She's completely avoiding to answer the questions directly, yet she delivers "answers" that the far right loves to hear.

And just as supermarkets employ psychologists to tell them on which shelf to put certain foods,
governments employ people to tell them what certain groups of people want to hear,
the best top people tell everyone what they want to hear without upsetting any of the others,
agree with them, then do nothing, make promises, then make excuses, but above all be sincere,
never tell a lie you can not explain away, always have someone who can carry the can,
and always deny everything, in that way you will be all things to all men,
and if all of that fails, do a George W Bush, and lash out at the nearest baddies and blame them.

If in doubt, drape yourself with the flag. (or salute it and say: 'God bless America')

Margaret Thatcher was about to be replaced when the Argentineans attacked the Falklands,
it saved her career and secured her a place in history.

 

[TheOutsider]

For reference, here is what McCain has said about evolution:

"Darwin helped explain nature’s laws. He did not speculate, in his published theories at least, on the origin of life. He did not exclude God, for Whom the immensity of time is but a moment, from our presence. The only undeniable challenge the theory of evolution poses to Christian beliefs is its obvious contradiction of the idea that God created the world as it is in less than a week. But our faith is certainly not so weak that it can be shaken to learn that a biblical metaphor is not literal history. Nature doesn’t threaten our faith. On the contrary, when we contemplate its beauty and mysteries we cannot quiet in our heart an insistent impulse of belief that for all its variations and inevitable change, before its creation, in a time before time, God let it be so, and, thus, its many splendors and purposes abide in His purpose.”

 

[Chalnoth]

For reference, here is what McCain has said about evolution:

"Darwin helped explain nature’s laws. He did not speculate, in his published theories at least, on the origin of life. He did not exclude God, for Whom the immensity of time is but a moment, from our presence. The only undeniable challenge the theory of evolution poses to Christian beliefs is its obvious contradiction of the idea that God created the world as it is in less than a week. But our faith is certainly not so weak that it can be shaken to learn that a biblical metaphor is not literal history. Nature doesn’t threaten our faith. On the contrary, when we contemplate its beauty and mysteries we cannot quiet in our heart an insistent impulse of belief that for all its variations and inevitable change, before its creation, in a time before time, God let it be so, and, thus, its many splendors and purposes abide in His purpose.”

Funny that he seems to think that evolution is okay, but abiogenesis clearly must be a non-natural phenomenon.

 

[Danyc]

I know next to nothing about the candidates so I try to not biases towards or against them; but I always thought McCain was just another republican who didn't accept evolution. At least he accepts that the Bible may not be literal.

He's gone up in my eyes.

 

[MasterOfKrikkit]

I know next to nothing about the candidates so I try to not biases towards or against them; but I always thought McCain was just another republican who didn't accept evolution. At least he accepts that the Bible may not be literal.

He's gone up in my eyes.

Ditto. Which goes to show how low the bar's been set. How sad is it when discovering that someone accepts the findings of science means your opinion of them increases? Excuse me while I a bit.

 

[Bombila]

A commenter on ScienceBlogs made the observation that his respect for McCain had gone up with this pick, since now he had no choice but to fervently hope McCain stays real healthy for a long time in the event the Republicans win the election. Crafty!

 

[RobertByers]

This is cool.
Having a assertive v.p. nominee saying creationism should be allowed in the classroom is another sign of the progress of creationism in America. Censorship is just not a American idea and forbidding God and genesis is absurd based on its common support , and historical precedent in the beliefs of early americans on origins.
This woman governor, i think, shows the future of science in the classroom.
Freedom is always the best strategy for those who want the truth to prevail.

 

[Split Rock]

This is cool.
Having a assertive v.p. nominee saying creationism should be allowed in the classroom is another sign of the progress of creationism in America. Censorship is just not a American idea and forbidding God and genesis is absurd based on its common support , and historical precedent in the beliefs of early americans on origins.
This woman governor, i think, shows the future of science in the classroom.
Freedom is always the best strategy for those who want the truth to prevail.

Your right RB... and to paraprase the words of a famous "embedded age" creationist we all know, "The Constitution of the United States of America Can Take A Hike!"

 

[Blayz]

And I once again thank all the gods, including the paper god of the pseudochristian idolators, that I do not live in the US of A

 

[Split Rock]

And I once again thank all the gods, including the paper god of the pseudochristian idolators, that I do not live in the US of A

Don't forget which country produced Ken Ham!

(maybe you should take him back now)

 

[Shemjaza]

You guys made him rich, you can keep him.

 

[Chalnoth]

And I once again thank all the gods, including the paper god of the pseudochristian idolators, that I do not live in the US of A

Sadly, if the US continues on this path towards ignorance and economic destruction with McCain/Palin, the fall of the US is likely to damage the entire world. We still have the biggest nuclear arsenal on the planet after all. That, combined with the very real possibility of religious extremism should scare the hell out of everybody.

 

[consol]

Sadly, if the US continues on this path towards ignorance and economic destruction with McCain/Palin, the fall of the US is likely to damage the entire world. We still have the biggest nuclear arsenal on the planet after all. That, combined with the very real possibility of religious extremism should scare the hell out of everybody.

And that's a fact.

 

[MoonLancer]

actually Russia has more nukes from what i understand.

 

[Chalnoth]

actually Russia has more nukes from what i understand.

I suppose that's possible, but since either nation has enough to destroy all of civilization many times over, it's rather a mute point.

 

[Cabal]

I suppose that's possible, but since either nation has enough to destroy all of civilization many times over, it's rather a mute point.

Especially if the US will insist on starting Cold War 2 on our doorstep....

 

[Chalnoth]

Especially if the US will insist on starting Cold War 2 on our doorstep....

Well, technically, Russia (or China) could insist the same thing. However, this is one of the reasons why I am strongly strongly in favor of Obama over McCain.

 

[MarcusHill]

Ah, the US, where you only have a choice of two parties: Far Right and Further Right...