Santorum Demolishes Romney

[questftbest]

Wow...what a surprise. I wonder if Santorum's huge victories in MO, CO and MN are due to Romenycare. Catholics and Evangelicals for that matter will need strong a fighter to end Obamacare after Obama decided to force abortions and morning after pills on Catholic schools, hospitals and universities.

 

[trunks2k]

Probably more due to Romney all but ignoring those states while the under dogs spent a good amount of time campaigning there.

 

[Jn1010]

Praise God for Santorum's victory. First, Romney is not a man we would want as President. He has no heart, and little empathy. He would govern like a robot who would back stab his own grandmother if necessary. Gingrich is a grinch that would turn off most people. Paul? No comment.

I think other factors are Obama and liberals. He said publicly that our founding Fathers wrote a document that makes it hard for him to do what he wants to do. Scary!!

Obama Care invades areas that should be left to individuals. Big all knowing and all wisdom government tells us how to conduct our personal lives. Scary!!

This man must be stopped in November. If he is in office another four years, there won't be a USA left. It will be Socialist/Muslim or Chinese/American.

 

[kermit]

Praise God for Santorum's victory. First, Romney is not a man we would want as President. He has no heart, and little empathy. He would govern like a robot who would back stab his own grandmother if necessary. Gingrich is a grinch that would turn off most people. Paul? No comment.

I think other factors are Obama and liberals. He said publicly that our founding Fathers wrote a document that makes it hard for him to do what he wants to do. Scary!!

Obama Care invades areas that should be left to individuals. Big all knowing and all wisdom government tells us how to conduct our personal lives. Scary!!

This man must be stopped in November. If he is in office another four years, there won't be a USA left. It will be Socialist/Muslim or Chinese/American.

This post illustrates the problem with the GOP this election cycle; it was the same problem the Dems has in '04. All of the arguments are about why it shouldn't be the other guy, but are never about why is should be this guy. John Kerry learned that even if voters don't like the other guy they won't turn out to vote for you unless you give them a reason to and I think the GOP candidate will learn the same lesson.

 

[Ishraqiyun]

This man must be stopped in November. If he is in office another four years, there won't be a USA left. It will be Socialist/Muslim or Chinese/American.

Socialist Muslim? How is he making the US Muslim? Has there been a massive upsurge in conversions since he took office due to his policies? You do know that Muslims are a relatively small minority here?

 

[NightHawkeye]

This post illustrates the problem with the GOP this election cycle; it was the same problem the Dems has in '04. All of the arguments are about why it shouldn't be the other guy, but are never about why is should be this guy. John Kerry learned that even if voters don't like the other guy they won't turn out to vote for you unless you give them a reason to and I think the GOP candidate will learn the same lesson.

You don't know much about Rick Santorum do you, kermit?

While Romney has been engaged in non-stop carpet bombing, Santorum has stayed on message. Take a look: Where I Stand | Rick Santorum for President

No More Leading from Behind for America

My passion for protecting and preserving freedom is a gift that comes to me from my grandfather, an immigrant who brought my father to this country and whose well-weathered hands mined coal in Southwestern Pennsylvania until he was 72. He left the totalitarian regime of Mussolini's Italy to bring his family to freedom.
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We Hold These Truths

The White House recently told the press there couldn’t be more difference between my position on gay marriage and President Obama’s.
On reflection, I agree.
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See, kermit, Rick Santorum is not afraid to agree with the president. It's a good, positive message. He outlines his positions on other issues here: Where I Stand | Rick Santorum for President

Unleashing America's Domestic Energy
Bold Solutions for America’s Families
Immigration Reform: Securing And Strengthing America
ObamaRegs Versus Freedom
Santorum Record on Defending the Dignity of Every Human Life
Appointing Constitutionalist Justices and Judges Who Refuse to Legislate from the Bench
Restoring America's Greatness Through Educational Freedom And Opportunity
Defending 2nd Amendment Rights
Repeal and Replace ObamaCare with Patient-Centered Healthcare
Spending Cuts and Entitlements Reform
Made In America
Response To Iran
Executive Branch Actions
Champion of Faith & Families
Defender of the Taxpayer
Believer in American Exceptionalism
10 Steps to Promote Our Interests Around the World

 

[Rion]

I liked Santorum's speech last night.

 

[jayem]

Wow...what a surprise. I wonder if Santorum's huge victories in MO, CO and MN are due to Romenycare. Catholics and Evangelicals for that matter will need strong a fighter to end Obamacare after Obama decided to force abortions and morning after pills on Catholic schools, hospitals and universities.

Rick did well getting his vote out. I've always thought he's got a good chance of being on the ticket as VP. But "huge victories?" MO had the biggest turnout of the night with 250,000 votes cast. There are over 4 million registered voters in my state. That's a 6% turnout. (For comparison, there were over 500,000 votes cast in the 2008 primary.) Total votes in CO was about 60,000, and less than 50,000 in Minn. These are miniscule slices of the electorate, and hardly representative of the general voting public. Rick is undoubtedly popular among a segment of very socially conservative voters but he lacks the broader appeal that a candidate at the top of the ticket needs.

 

[IzzyPop]

You don't know much about Rick Santorum do you, kermit?

While Romney has been engaged in non-stop carpet bombing, Santorum has stayed on message. Take a look: Where I Stand | Rick Santorum for President

No More Leading from Behind for America

My passion for protecting and preserving freedom is a gift that comes to me from my grandfather, an immigrant who brought my father to this country and whose well-weathered hands mined coal in Southwestern Pennsylvania until he was 72. He left the totalitarian regime of Mussolini's Italy to bring his family to freedom.
​

We Hold These Truths

The White House recently told the press there couldn’t be more difference between my position on gay marriage and President Obama’s.
On reflection, I agree.
​

See, kermit, Rick Santorum is not afraid to agree with the president. It's a good, positive message. He outlines his positions on other issues here: Where I Stand | Rick Santorum for President

Unleashing America's Domestic Energy
Bold Solutions for America’s Families
Immigration Reform: Securing And Strengthing America
ObamaRegs Versus Freedom
Santorum Record on Defending the Dignity of Every Human Life
Appointing Constitutionalist Justices and Judges Who Refuse to Legislate from the Bench
Restoring America's Greatness Through Educational Freedom And Opportunity
Defending 2nd Amendment Rights
Repeal and Replace ObamaCare with Patient-Centered Healthcare
Spending Cuts and Entitlements Reform
Made In America
Response To Iran
Executive Branch Actions
Champion of Faith & Families
Defender of the Taxpayer
Believer in American Exceptionalism
10 Steps to Promote Our Interests Around the World

Which all adds up to a frothy mixture of theocrat, misogynist, bigot, and big government conservative. Not as unelectable as Newt, but awfully close.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Which all adds up to a frothy mixture of theocrat, misogynist, bigot, and big government conservative. Not as unelectable as Newt, but awfully close.

OK.

Let's contrast and compare, then ... Obama represents a secular mix of unrestrained totalitarianism, indebtedness, class warfare, restrained speech, crony capitalism, and corruption ... all that, along with high unemployment.


Seems like a no-brainer to me.

 

[FaithLikeARock]

Santorum is a whole lot of pretty words on the topics he doesn't care about - all he really wants is to implement the death penalty for gay people, put women in jail for attempting abortions, ban all birth control and issue harsh fines for their use and sale, and eventually introduce laws saying if you don't profess to Christianity you must surrender your citizenship.

Fortunately every single person NOT voting for Sanoturm in the primaries is going to continue not voting for him in the real election because he is so fringe on social issues. Meaning if Santorum makes it, Obama is guaranteed victory. In fact, if ANY GOP candidate wins, Obama is still going to win. Because campaigns aren't about rhetoric they're about numbers. And since the GOP tends towards self destruction by running so many primary candidates, there is absolutely no way any GOP candidate can win the actual election. You heard it in this forum. If Santorum doesn't make it, then he's voting 3rd party. Romney people will vote 3rd party if Romney wins. Gingrich, same deal. And what you have is a slightly pumped 3rd party candidate and Obama is President for four more years.

And thank goodness for that because none of the candidates in the GOP are even half as decent as Obama - all of them are one part crazy, one part rhetoric, one part social insanity, and one part religious obsession. At least Obama has his feet on the ground.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Santorum is a whole lot of pretty words on the topics he doesn't care about - all he really wants is to implement the death penalty for gay people ...

I'd sure like a reference for that, please, FaithLikeARock.

... put women in jail for attempting abortions ...

... kinda like a reference on that, too. Cuz, that's almost as harsh as Sharia law.

... , ban all birth control and issue harsh fines for their use and sale ...

Again, a reference sure would help persuade people that you know what you're talking about ... which seems doubtful.

... and eventually introduce laws saying if you don't profess to Christianity you must surrender your citizenship.

I sense great fear in you, FaithLikeARock.

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[FaithLikeARock]

I'd sure like a reference for that, please, FaithLikeARock.


... kinda like a reference on that, too. Cuz, that's almost as harsh as Sharia law.


Again, a reference sure would help persuade people that you know what you're talking about ... which seems doubtful.


I sense great fear in you, FaithLikeARock.

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Deliberate hyperbole friend, though perhaps not that unrealistic since when it comes to the real fringe social conservatives they can only go downhill when encouraged.

For one thing, he's publicly stated that he's against separating private and public ideals (that is, religious and public ideals). Not just his personal philosophy, he's against it. He thinks it violates "freedom of conscience" when really it's simply the ideal many people hold of allowing OTHERS to enjoy THEIR freedom of religion (as well as other freedoms). That's is a nice start towards theocracy.

He's stated he thinks that the public should be able to vote on "moral" issues, ignoring that throughout history "moral" issues has included things like slavery and suffrage.

He has stated that he doesn't believe you have a right to privacy (in what you do in the bedroom specifically).

He has absolutely no respect for the very basic of rights that you conservatives constantly criticize liberals for disrespecting, except whereas liberal violations of privacy are out of fear of actual terrorism, yours are out of fear that somewhere, someone might be doing something YOU find morally wrong.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Deliberate hyperbole friend ...

Yes, your post was certainly deliberate hyperbole ...

... but that's why I asked for specific references ... to separate truth from lies.

For one thing, he's publicly stated that he's against separating private and public ideals (that is, religious and public ideals). Not just his personal philosophy, he's against it. He thinks it violates "freedom of conscience" when really it's simply the ideal many people hold of allowing OTHERS to enjoy THEIR freedom of religion (as well as other freedoms). That's is a nice start towards theocracy.

He's stated he thinks that the public should be able to vote on "moral" issues, ignoring that throughout history "moral" issues has included things like slavery and suffrage.

He has stated that he doesn't believe you have a right to privacy (in what you do in the bedroom specifically).

He has absolutely no respect for the very basic of rights that you conservatives constantly criticize liberals for disrespecting, except whereas liberal violations of privacy are out of fear of actual terrorism, yours are out of fear that somewhere, someone might be doing something YOU find morally wrong.

Again, I'll ask for a reference for each of these ... some appear to be clear mis-representations of Santorum's stance on the issues.

 

[FaithLikeARock]

Yes, your post was certainly deliberate hyperbole ...

... but that's why I asked for specific references ... to separate truth from lies.


Again, I'll ask for a reference for each of these ... some appear to be clear mis-representations of Santorum's stance on the issues.

And when I provide you with references are you going to go "Oh okay I guess I was wrong" or are you going to weasel your way around them? I've learned in my years on this site that going to the trouble of finding non-biased articles providing even direct quotes is a waste of time, since God himself could descend from heaven and tell you directly that your opinion is ill-concieved and you would simply call him a heretic and convert to Islam. So if you're going to take it at face value then I will go through the trouble to start compiling links, but if you are knowingly going to ignore everything I say then I have better things to do with my time.

 

[Jase]

Praise God for Santorum's victory. First, Romney is not a man we would want as President. He has no heart, and little empathy. He would govern like a robot who would back stab his own grandmother if necessary. Gingrich is a grinch that would turn off most people. Paul? No comment.

I think other factors are Obama and liberals. He said publicly that our founding Fathers wrote a document that makes it hard for him to do what he wants to do. Scary!!

Obama Care invades areas that should be left to individuals. Big all knowing and all wisdom government tells us how to conduct our personal lives. Scary!!

This man must be stopped in November. If he is in office another four years, there won't be a USA left. It will be Socialist/Muslim or Chinese/American.

You do realize everything Santorum wants to do violates the Constitution too right? Santorum has no shot of ever touching the White House.

 

[NightHawkeye]

And when I provide you with references are you going to go "Oh okay I guess I was wrong" or are you going to weasel your way around them? I've learned in my years on this site that going to the trouble of finding non-biased articles providing even direct quotes is a waste of time, since God himself could descend from heaven and tell you directly that your opinion is ill-concieved and you would simply call him a heretic and convert to Islam. So if you're going to take it at face value then I will go through the trouble to start compiling links, but if you are knowingly going to ignore everything I say then I have better things to do with my time.

Well ... let's start small ... one item at a time.

You said:

Santorum is a whole lot of pretty words on the topics he doesn't care about - all he really wants is to implement the death penalty for gay people ...

This one is easy, FaithLikeARock. If he said something this drastic, then it should be public knowledge ... don't ya think.

... put women in jail for attempting abortions ...

... a little less drastic ... but what ya got?


I'm really interested if you have reliable evidence ... like videos, or substantiated quotes. What ya got?

 

[Ishraqiyun]

He seems to be saying the supreme court would be wrong to rule that people have a right to have gay sex:

“[I have] a problem with homosexual acts, as I would with what I would consider to be acts outside of traditional heterosexual relationships . . . if the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does. It all comes from, I would argue, this right to privacy that doesn’t exist in my opinion in the United States Constitution. In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That’s not to pick on homosexuality. It’s not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing.””

–Rick Santorum on gay sex, AP interview

If they have no right to it then it could legitimately be made illegal. I could see how a person who supported sexual freedom and privacy might be concerned about that.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

OK.

Let's contrast and compare, then ... Obama represents a secular mix of unrestrained totalitarianism, indebtedness, class warfare, restrained speech, crony capitalism, and corruption ... all that, along with high unemployment.


Seems like a no-brainer to me.

Unrestrained totalitarianism? I cringe whenever I hear Americans use that word. There are people in the world today who are really suffering under totalitarian despots and American conservatives have the temerity to use the same word to describe their democratically elected leaders? Oh please...

 

[USincognito]

Wow...what a surprise. I wonder if Santorum's huge victories in MO, CO and MN are due to Romenycare. Catholics and Evangelicals for that matter will need strong a fighter to end Obamacare after Obama decided to force abortions and morning after pills on Catholic schools, hospitals and universities.

When did that happen?